''Autism'' CAN be triggered by Vaccines. (Page 3/8)
randye APR 23, 09:00 PM

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Originally posted by BingB:


The government has no motive to value profit over human life.






You just keep coming up with dumber and dumber definitive statements.

Leftist statists like you have a "religious" belief in an imaginary "benevolence", "wisdom" and "morality" of government.

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williegoat APR 23, 09:56 PM

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Originally posted by randye:
You just keep coming up with dumber and dumber definitive statements.

Leftist statists like you have a "religious" belief in your imagined "benevolence" and "wisdom" of government.



fred believes that people are ignorant and self centered (except for himself, of course), but governments are wise and benevolent. Should we tell him that governments are made of people?

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randye APR 23, 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:


fred believes that people are ignorant and self centered (except for himself, of course), but governments are wise and benevolent. Should we tell him that governments are made of people?




It doesn't matter what we tell him.

A contrarian always has a rebuttal however weak and / or ridiculous.

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ray b APR 24, 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by randye:
It doesn't matter what we tell him.

A contrarian always has a rebuttal however weak and / or ridiculous.



btw there were people on the spectrum long before any vaccines
NO PROOF TO ANY VAC SHOT as the cause
note they claim vaccines not a vac shot for X did it
when they get a good claim they can name the shot other wise BS
AND THIS ANTI-VAX LYING WITH NO REAL NAMED VAC CAUSE


YES YOU DO like your leftist BS

BUT WHEN WILL YOU EVER NOTE A RUMP LIE ?
a rightwing disaster ?
any Gop flaw at all ?
or only ...

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Doug85GT APR 24, 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by ray b:

btw there were people on the spectrum long before any vaccines
NO PROOF TO ANY VAC SHOT as the cause
note they claim vaccines not a vac shot for X did it
when they get a good claim they can name the shot other wise BS
AND THIS ANTI-VAX LYING WITH NO REAL NAMED VAC CAUSE


YES YOU DO like your leftist BS

BUT WHEN WILL YOU EVER NOTE A RUMP LIE ?
a rightwing disaster ?
any Gop flaw at all ?
or only ...




The argument is not that vaccines are the sole cause of autism. It is that vaccines are causing an increase in autism. There were cases of lung cancer before cigarettes. That does not disprove that cigarette use increases the chance of getting lung cancer.

You are unaware of what is happening on the right currently. There is an ideological war happening between the Neocons and the Populists. The Neocons are interventionists, that is they believe in America actively using its wealth, influence and military to maintain order and push its agenda around the world. The Populists believe in taking care of America first and only influencing things in the world when needed and when it benefits America. The Bushes are Neocons. Trump is a Populist. There are other differences but that is the biggest one.

The right can be wrong. Bush was wrong when he created a whole new entitlement for government paid medications. Trump was wrong when he banned bump stocks. Trump was also wrong on red flag laws when he said to take the guns first then go to court.

I get the feeling those are not the flaws you are looking for. You are looking for people who's beliefs are diametrically opposed to your to have the same criticism of their side. That is not going to happen. I would not expect many Democrats to criticize their side on how government programs creates dependence.
BingB APR 24, 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by BingB:
There is a huge difference between criticizing our governments efficiency and claiming that government regulation is the same as "socialism".


People who know history can understand this.




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Originally posted by williegoat:

Karl would be so proud.



Thanks for proving my point Willie
williegoat APR 24, 08:37 PM

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Originally posted by BingB:

Thanks for proving my point Willie


Now you are acting exactly like sourmash.
BingB APR 24, 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by randye:
You just keep coming up with dumber and dumber definitive statements.

Leftist statists like you have a "religious" belief in an imaginary "benevolence", "wisdom" and "morality" of government.





You are such a perfectly programmed little puppet that you can not even read what I write and respond to it. Here is what I wrote



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Originally posted by BingB:

I don't trust the government. I know what the CIA did in South America. I know about the Gulf of Tonkin, I know about Iran Contra. I know about WMDs in Iraq. But history proves that we should all trust the government more than corporate America. The government has no motive to value profit over human life.





All you know how to do is spit out a pre-programmed speaking point whenever anyone claims government regulation helps us all.

You don't even respond to what I actually say. You respond to what the programmers have told you I said. Then you just blindly repeat this "strawman" so that you can knock it down.

-Corporations are inherently evil because they value profits over human life. This is not some "liberal theory". It is a fact well proven by history.

-But we have to have a capitalist economy to drive innovation and efficiency.

-So we have to have a government to protect the people from the power of corporate America. Elected officials can not try to exploit and kill their constituents because they need them to vote for them.

-Power corrupts in politics the same way it does in the free market economy. That is why we have a constitution with checks and balances to keep the government from abusing its power.

HISTORY HAS PROVEN that the government regulations have protected citizens from exploitation by corporate interests and has protected the environment. Our government is far from perfect but anyone who thinks we would be better off without the FDA is insane. Even TA82 agrees that we can't do away with it.
BingB APR 24, 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
This right here is why I have no interest in having a conversation with you. You asked me... "what would I do," and I responded. To that, you completely ignored the entire point of the conversation... which made up like 90% of what I said... and then respond to one part which was effectively the meaningless part of it, and went on a rant / tirade about whatever nonsense this is above.




You made a comment, and I responded to it. Why are you freaking out like this. Don't you expect people to respond to what you say.

My comments were directed at several comments in the thread. They were well thought out and very clear.

If you want to know what an actual "rant/tirade" looks like there is this



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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
This is why I think you're an ******* , and while I honestly cannot stand having a conversation with you. At least with Rinselberg, he would discuss the points, and have a conversation. All you do is antagonize. The forum is worse off because you are in it, and you have absolutely nothing of value with which to provide.



Notice the swearing?

Notice the lack of any specific mention of any of the FACTS I discussed?

Notice the failure to point out anything that I said that was false?

Notice the long stream of personal insults?

This is a rant. This is how a person who lacks emotional maturity loses control when someone challenges his beliefs with strong historical facts.
cliffw APR 25, 08:09 AM

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Originally posted by BingB:
The problem with the right is their fealty to business over individuals.



The problem with the left is their fealty to government over individuals.


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Originally posted by williegoat:
Should we tell him that governments are made of people?



It might not help but it won't hurt.