quote Originally posted by williegoat: So, what you are saying is that the FBI is incapable of distinguishing fact from fiction. They are incompetent and cannot be trusted.

Not at all. Alexander Smirnov had been an FBI informant, and the FBI came down on the side that he was providing accurate information, until he started talking about the Biden family.

The FBI was able to corroborate his previous information, but when Smirnov started talking about the Bidens, the FBI couldn't corroborate it, and then the FBI found the evidence that Smirnov was lying about what he said he knew about the Biden family. That's why Smirnov was indicted—on the basis of that evidence.

There was a period when Smirnov was still on the FBI's payroll as an informant, and the FBI was updating their file of what Smirnov was saying about the Biden family, but at the same time, the FBI was checking it out and they would eventually come to the conclusion that Smirnov was lying about the Bidens.

Smirnov was valued as an FBI informant, and it was Smirnov's contacts with Russian intelligence that made him a valued FBI informant, but apparently the Russians were able to turn him, and he began working with the Russians against the United States. He was getting his fabrications about the Biden family from the Russians... Russian disinformation.

That's the FBI doing TWO THINGS AT ONCE.

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quote Originally posted by Doug85GT: He [rinselberg] posted that [about Alexander Smirnov] as a red herring. It has nothing to do with the subject at all. That is one of [rinselberg's] old tactics he has used for years.

Former FBI-informant Alexander Smirnov has everything to do with this topic.

The FBI cautioned the likes of House Republicans James Comer and Jim Jordan that Smirnov's accusations of Ukraine-related corruption involving Joe and Hunter Biden had not been corroborated. But these Trump-infected MAGA doofuses ran full speed with Smirnov's accusations against the Bidens—ignoring the FBI's warnings. These House Republicans (along with Republican Senator Chuck Grassley) played up Alexander Smirnov's importance on Fox News and other Right Wing Nut Job media, which ran what I guess are literally hundreds of on-air references to Alexander Smirnov. These Republicans boasted about Smirnov as their star witness as they drooled about their prospects of impeaching President Biden.

Now Smirnov has been indicted on federal charges and he's in jail, confined to pre-trial detention, because he's an obvious flight risk.

Who is going to say that this reminds them of the Democrats and how the Democrats "hyped" the Mueller investigation?

The Mueller investigation produced a series of indictments against individuals and entities for interference with the 2016 U.S. presidential election on behalf of Russia, and for other crimes.

When I posted here about Smirnov, I didn't realize that Doug85GT was posting a YouTube video at the same time. He got in ahead of me.

This is a summary of the case from the U.S. Department of Justice—not from any news media. It's just over a 3-minute read. They use "Public Official 1" to signify Joe Biden, and "Businessperson 1" to signify Hunter Biden.

The very last sentence is a How To for federal justice system mavens like olejoedad and Doug85GT. It provides a way to have online access to court documents and other official information about the case.

"Grand Jury Returns Indictment Charging FBI Confidential Human Source [Alexander Smirnov] with Felony False Statement and Obstruction Crimes"
U.S. Department of Justice; February 15, 2024.
https://www.justice.gov/sco...-source-felony-false

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