Blue-state meltdown (Page 3/11)
Fats FEB 06, 01:05 AM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

Lots of stuff



I would be more interested in crime in areas compared to voting tendencies in that area. For example, Missouri is reactively crime free, as long as you exclude Saint Louis and Kansas City from the counting, both areas that are Democrat strongholds and have been for a long time. The rest of the State is Republican. Both cities are crime ridden crap holes that make our quiet State look bad. We've tried giving them to Kansas and Illinois, but they aren't falling for that one.

I would bet that as you get away from the Democrat areas of California, that crime also drops significantly and will reflect voting habits of the specific area.

There is a couple of phenomena we run into driving over the road. Two things, the more Democrat an area is, the worst the drivers are. And the more "progressive" bumper stickers a vehicle has on it, the more likely it is to cut you off or do stupid things. The only conclusion I can come to (and I might be wrong) is that the more progressive a person becomes, the less they care about other people or the effects their actions have on others. This creates a sort of snowball effect where everyone stops being decent unless the police or news is watching.

On a semi-related note. I'd be curious as to the political makeup of prisoners. I would bet that most aren't registered with either party, but just curious about their leanings. I did a quick search on it but can only find very biased sites that ignore the totals and just try to play in the numbers to get their own biased views confirmed.

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blackrams FEB 06, 07:10 AM

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Originally posted by Fats:


I would be more interested in crime in areas compared to voting tendencies in that area. For example, Missouri is reactively crime free, as long as you exclude Saint Louis and Kansas City from the counting, both areas that are Democrat strongholds and have been for a long time. The rest of the State is Republican. Both cities are crime ridden crap holes that make our quiet State look bad. We've tried giving them to Kansas and Illinois, but they aren't falling for that one.

I would bet that as you get away from the Democrat areas of California, that crime also drops significantly and will reflect voting habits of the specific area.

There is a couple of phenomena we run into driving over the road. Two things, the more Democrat an area is, the worst the drivers are. And the more "progressive" bumper stickers a vehicle has on it, the more likely it is to cut you off or do stupid things. The only conclusion I can come to (and I might be wrong) is that the more progressive a person becomes, the less they care about other people or the effects their actions have on others. This creates a sort of snowball effect where everyone stops being decent unless the police or news is watching.

On a semi-related note. I'd be curious as to the political makeup of prisoners. I would bet that most aren't registered with either party, but just curious about their leanings. I did a quick search on it but can only find very biased sites that ignore the totals and just try to play in the numbers to get their own biased views confirmed.




Some interesting points and good questions. I believe that the redder the area, the less crimes are committed but, those crimes are more likely to be reported but, I've got other things I need to be doing this morning.

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82-T/A [At Work] FEB 06, 07:58 AM

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Originally posted by Fats:

I would be more interested in crime in areas compared to voting tendencies in that area. For example, Missouri is reactively crime free, as long as you exclude Saint Louis and Kansas City from the counting, both areas that are Democrat strongholds and have been for a long time. The rest of the State is Republican. Both cities are crime ridden crap holes that make our quiet State look bad. We've tried giving them to Kansas and Illinois, but they aren't falling for that one.

I would bet that as you get away from the Democrat areas of California, that crime also drops significantly and will reflect voting habits of the specific area.

There is a couple of phenomena we run into driving over the road. Two things, the more Democrat an area is, the worst the drivers are. And the more "progressive" bumper stickers a vehicle has on it, the more likely it is to cut you off or do stupid things. The only conclusion I can come to (and I might be wrong) is that the more progressive a person becomes, the less they care about other people or the effects their actions have on others. This creates a sort of snowball effect where everyone stops being decent unless the police or news is watching.

On a semi-related note. I'd be curious as to the political makeup of prisoners. I would bet that most aren't registered with either party, but just curious about their leanings. I did a quick search on it but can only find very biased sites that ignore the totals and just try to play in the numbers to get their own biased views confirmed.




You're not wrong. I actually feel a little bit bad saying this, because honestly, it stings... I know it does. But it is fact... criminals are almost overwhelmingly Democrat-leaning.

One of the better surveys that's been conducted that can irrefutably determine this, is cataloging felons who register to vote, after they've served their time. This is in states where a felon is allowed to register to vote afterwards (some states don't allow felons to ever vote again). In almost every single state where this is allowed, the felons register as Democrats... at an almost 5:1 ratio.

I love going to PolitiFact. It's a wildly Democrat-leaning "fact-checker" website. The hilarious thing about them is that they'll intentionally misrepresent a claim. They basically take some information that someone said... then say it's MOSTLY FALSE or COMPLETELY FALSE... and then proceed to basically prove themselves wrong. They'll usually lay out the facts that are totally opposite from their MOSTLY FALSE claim, but they use some nuance to say it's false. Like, someone will say... "All Democrats are bad people." And then they'll say, "MOSTLY FALSE ... only 99% of Democrats are bad people." It's hilarious. So here's one example...

https://www.politifact.com/...nt-criminals-democr/

"...about one-third of felons released from prison registered to vote after their release. Of those, about 62 percent registered as Democrats and 9 percent registered as Republicans, with 26 percent registering as independents or with other parties."

The old argument is "white collar" crimes are Republican. But that's no longer true now either. Nearly every single corporate CEO or investor that's been arrested that's made national news have all been Democrats. Bernie Madoff, Carrie Tolstedt, Sam Bankman, Jeffrey Epstein... you name it.

The only crime you typically see in Republican areas... and specifically, we're talking about very rural and poor areas (which are stereotypically Republican, but are actually pretty split), are drug-related crimes. Like heroine, meth, etc., related crimes...


But yes... you're completely right, and to be honest with you... every one of us know this. The Democrat party has been the most chaotic party in the history of this country. It's certainly the oldest... but the Republican party has always (for the most part) stood for the same things. The Democrat party swings wildly over the years, reinventing itself (and destroying itself) over the years. They go back and forth from being "the working man's party," to "the party of big business" to "the party of victims." They've done this repeatedly over the past 200+ years. Right now, they're a mix of "the party of big business" and "the party of victims."

All of this is so odd to me, because many of the people on here are old enough to have been protestors during the 1960s... fighting against the government, fighting against war, and fighting against big corporations. The Democrat party is the exact opposite today of what it was in the 1970s.
- They are VERY pro-Ukraine war... they want that war to continue until every last bad guy is dead. They also want us to fund "palestine," and they like the bombing of groups in Syria, Iraq, and other places.
- They are not only NOT anti-Government... they are 100% pro-government. Nearly every Democrat is BEGGING to give up their rights to someone, anyone from Government who asks. They want to feel the warm embrace of government control in their lives.
- Corporations... where can I start? They LOOOVE the pharmaceutical companies... I mean, ADORE THEM... when just 4 years ago, drug companies were the most hated companies in the world. They LOVE Facebook, Google, and all the other massive conglomerate companies... they LOVE these organizations. They would only love them more if they became part of the government.


The only thing I can figure... Democrats are literally insane, and the people who support them are either insane themselves, or well-intentioned and well-meaning people who have a distorted view of what's actually going on ... or, they still believe this fallastic view of a utopia is achievable, if we just keep trying to do the same thing. It really does pain me to say this because, quite honestly... I hate being an ******* . I really do... I know some people here genuinely think I enjoy being an ******* ... but I don't. I just get so fed up with looking at how insane everything has gotten that I have to speak my mind.

Anyway, yes... there's dozens and dozens of studies that show the overwhelming vast majority of people who commit crimes are Democrat-leaning. To the point that a majority of known-criminals that are registered to vote, are registered Democrat. The question remains... does the party itself attract criminals? Or... has the party become what it is because so many of them are criminals?


Anyway, I truly am sorry to everyone for saying this... but whatever. We just need to all collectively do better, and the Democrat "leadership" needs to stop intentionally creating and catering to a victim mentality.
williegoat FEB 06, 09:02 AM
Ha ha! Guess what...
ray b FEB 06, 09:27 AM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

Ha ha! Guess what...



you admit your propaganda is from the evil fox empire

BUSTED
jdv FEB 06, 01:01 PM
According to Ray it's ok to assault the police and rape little girls. What else is OK RAY ?
ray b FEB 06, 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by jdv:

According to Ray it's ok to assault the police and rape little girls. What else is OK RAY ?


NO that was the rump and or his fans
who have been convicted of doing that

not me
jdv FEB 07, 08:03 AM
Go back to your Peter pan world of make believe.
ray b FEB 07, 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by jdv:

Go back to your Peter pan world of make believe.



nut con's produce cartoons
as loonie ideals is a con thing

I try to post numbers or facts

like the rump doubled the debts

for the cult members to hate

lying is a con thing you do it very well
williegoat FEB 07, 01:05 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:


nut con's produce cartoons
as loonie ideals is a con thing

I try to post numbers or facts

like the rump doubled the debts

for the cult members to hate

lying is a con thing you do it very well


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