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fredtoast
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SEP 14, 04:53 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Do I need to watch this? I don't want to sit through 12 minutes of nonsense.
Here's what I know. Since Biden took office, the price of goods have gone up SUBSTANTIALLY.
To be completely honest... I don't know how most people are even able to survive. I make a LOT of money, and my expenses have literally gone through the roof from groceries, energy costs, gasoline, to literally everything I buy. The most basic things that an individual would buy, that costs the same for me as it does for someone who only makes the median U.S. income. I seriously question how someone at that income level even manages to survive at this point? Like... 3 years ago, I made exactly HALF of what I do now... and it was easier to survive back then under the Trump administration and the fantastic economy that we had, than it is right now.
Household debt and especially... Credit Card debt has skyrocketed. Seriously, Rinse... look at this chart:
This chart is from August of 2023 (shows only Q2 of 2023). This is from CNN... look at when credit card debt started to go up... it started immediately within the first 6 months of President Biden taking office. Literally by March of 2021, people began accruing credit card debt, which was following a dramatic increase in gas prices due to all the bullshit/nonsense stuff that Biden did. Let's look at this chart from AAA:
It may take a minute to understand what you're looking at, but I'll make it really simple...
When Biden took office, gas prices were a little above $2 a gallon... which Trump had previously maintained for more than 3 years with it even dipping to $1.65 at one point. But at the end of Biden's first year, gas prices had risen to over $3.25 a gallon. At one point they got to $5.00 a gallon average last year, and are currently at almost $4.00 a gallon and rising. This isn't JUST what we pay for gas to get to work, but it increases the cost of every product we buy.
Here, read the CNN article about record never seen before Credit Card debt: https://www.cnn.com/2023/08...card-debt/index.html
I'm not trying to be mean, but seriously... I want to understand how you can sit there and tell me that what Biden has been doing for the past 3 years has been a good thing?
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You still do not understand the difference between "causation" and "correlation".
I have a niece who started college spring semester of 2021. Exactly the same time Biden took office. Based on YOUR simplistic logic I could post these same graphs as "proof" that Kenzie staring college made the price of gas go up.
You are reaching the Alex Jones level of denial when you refuse to acknowledge that inflation was WORLD WIDE. That Biden took office at the exact same time that the world was resetting after Covid. How do you address that inconvenient truth? Do you just stick your head in the sand and say it never happened? Or do you blame the entire world wide economy on Joe Bidens policies?
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82-T/A [At Work]
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SEP 14, 07:50 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by fredtoast:
You still do not understand the difference between "causation" and "correlation".
I have a niece who started college spring semester of 2021. Exactly the same time Biden took office. Based on YOUR simplistic logic I could post these same graphs as "proof" that Kenzie staring college made the price of gas go up.
You are reaching the Alex Jones level of denial when you refuse to acknowledge that inflation was WORLD WIDE. That Biden took office at the exact same time that the world was resetting after Covid. How do you address that inconvenient truth? Do you just stick your head in the sand and say it never happened? Or do you blame the entire world wide economy on Joe Bidens policies?
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Fred... do you actually believe the things you say? Serious question... I'm realizing more and more that you can never say anything bad about a Democrat. You will always try to justify everything, deflect at every opportunity, and protect the ideology of the Democrat party. Which means that it's your religion. The Republican party means absolutely nothing to me. If a Democrat ran tomorrow saying they would do all the things I wanted... or at least most of them, I would magically overnight become a Democrat. And with JFK Jr., that may happen.
But you... it doesn't matter what the Democrats do, you will find a reason to support it and agree with it. I hope you learn to become a bit more introspective. Literally, your whole response above is basically nonsense where you try to explain away that which the majority of the country, even the media, already understands as fact... but not you... it's totally wild.
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fredtoast
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SEP 15, 11:47 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Literally, your whole response above is basically nonsense where you try to explain away that which the majority of the country, even the media, already understands as fact. |
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You have no clue what anyone thinks.
You claimed that "everyone knew" that the charges against Trump would not lead to conviction, but the official betting line proves that you are 100% wrong.
People who believe that they can win any argument just by saying "It is true because I say it is true" have lost their ability to think critically. They can only survive in an echo chamber where everyone blindly agrees with each other.
And as usual you ran away instead of answering my question. . . . Are you claiming that there was not world wide inflation or are you claiming that Biden was the blame for the world wide inflation? Which is it?[This message has been edited by fredtoast (edited 09-15-2023).]
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82-T/A [At Work]
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SEP 15, 06:28 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by fredtoast:You have no clue what anyone thinks.
You claimed that "everyone knew" that the charges against Trump would not lead to conviction, but the official betting line proves that you are 100% wrong.
People who believe that they can win any argument just by saying "It is true because I say it is true" have lost their ability to think critically. They can only survive in an echo chamber where everyone blindly agrees with each other.
And as usual you ran away instead of answering my question. . . . Are you claiming that there was not world wide inflation or are you claiming that Biden was the blame for the world wide inflation? Which is it? |
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LOLOLOL! Fred... are you telling me here that you think Trump is going to get convicted because the betting website does?
Oh man, you're more silly than I ever imagined.
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rinselberg
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SEP 15, 07:00 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
LOLOLOL! Fred... are you telling me here that you think Trump is going to get convicted because the betting website does?
Oh man, you're more silly than I ever imagined. |
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Fred didn't say that he believes that Trump will be convicted because of what he sees of the wagering odds on that online casino website that I posted.
What Fred is saying is that the wagering odds are at odds (yes) with the assertion that "everyone knows that Trump is not going to be convicted," and that is an assertion that came from you (82-T/A.)
Fred is saying that if there were an almost universal expectation—"everyone knows"—that Trump is not going to be convicted, it would follow that the odds on those wagers would be much different than what they are.
Of course, that raises the question of whether the online betting community is fairly representative of the entire nation, in terms of the thinking about Trump.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 09-15-2023).]
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williegoat
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SEP 15, 07:10 PM
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Well, I've learned something today: If I ever need advice on bookies or hookers, I know who to ask.
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williegoat
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SEP 15, 07:17 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Fred didn't say that he believes that Trump will be convicted because of what he sees of the wagering odds on that online casino website that I posted.
What Fred is saying is that the wagering odds are at odds (yes) with the assertion that "everyone knows that Trump is not going to be convicted," and that is an assertion that came from you (82-T/A.)
Fred is saying that if there were an almost universal expectation—"everyone knows"—that Trump is not going to be convicted, it would follow that the odds on those wagers would be much different than what they are.
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This is what toast said:
| quote | Originally posted by fredtoast:
You have no clue what anyone thinks.
You claimed that "everyone knew" that the charges against Trump would not lead to conviction, but the official betting line proves that you are 100% wrong.
People who believe that they can win any argument just by saying "It is true because I say it is true" have lost their ability to think critically. They can only survive in an echo chamber where everyone blindly agrees with each other.
And as usual you ran away instead of answering my question. . . . Are you claiming that there was not world wide inflation or are you claiming that Biden was the blame for the world wide inflation? Which is it?
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"the official betting line proves"
Just more bizarre, meaningless absurdity. Just words to fill the vast empty spaces. Why do the smallest minds have the biggest empty spaces?
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MidEngineManiac
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SEP 15, 07:44 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
Well, I've learned something today: If I ever need advice on bookies or hookers, I know who to ask. |
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I thought you already sorted those sorts of gents  The big boys club who dont want 99 luftabaloons advice.
Like I would ever toss her out of bed for eating chips....
ROTFLMAO.
Or whatever[This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 09-15-2023).]
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rinselberg
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SEP 15, 08:51 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
"the official betting line proves"
Just more bizarre, meaningless absurdity. Just words to fill the vast empty spaces. Why do the smallest minds have the biggest empty spaces? |
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There's nothing in that subtext about whether Trump should be convicted, or about whether it would be better (or worse) if Trump were convicted, or anything of that kind.
That subtext is just about expectations... about what people think is likely to happen. Within the narrow confines of that subtext, there's nothing more at stake than if this were a game of Solitaire that some dude—comfortably ensconced in his man cave with an ample supply of peanuts and beer—was playing, repeatedly, and doing nothing more than keeping track of how many times he won or lost.
Maybe he needed to stay home for several hours, for some reason. Waiting for a call that he preferred to take on his landline?[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 09-15-2023).]
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williegoat
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SEP 15, 09:19 PM
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The "official betting line" proves only that there are people who are willing to bet. Nothing more of consequence can be surmised. To conclude otherwise is absurd.
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