Student loans struck down... (Page 3/6)
rinselberg JUL 17, 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:
I suppose the next bs [ray b will] post will interpret "Suffer the little children to come unto me" as the basis for the drag queen parties and chlid grooming.


Ah. The Republican infrastructure plan. Build a national "closet" that's big enough to contain the entire LGBT+ population and keep them segregated from everyone else.

"Child grooming" is the Tucker Carlson-style code words for the supersized national "closet" concept. Mostly.

It's a concept that gives Vladimir Putin (among many others) a secure, comforting kind of feeling.
ray b JUL 17, 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

And incapable of original thought. The words you quoted are quite literally science fiction, plagiarized from Patrick S. Tomlinson.



dis ain't no college class so no requirement for only original thoughts
so yes I do like stuff for far more liberal boards and share it here

I am glad you got over the fear of google !

now get over yourself

why does the Gop think only they get to use the buy-bull quotes as a china restaurant menu ?

si-fi ????
no just religious BS used in a way you do not like

I do think the fictional son of a fictional god would support my version of the book over rhonda's
as his is tooo mean and what is in it for my boys style
82-T/A [At Work] JUL 17, 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Ah. The Republican infrastructure plan. Build a national "closet" that's big enough to contain the entire LGBT+ population and keep them segregated from everyone else.

"Child grooming" is the Tucker Carlson-style code words for the supersized national "closet" concept. Mostly.

It's a concept that gives Vladimir Putin (among many others) a secure, comforting kind of feeling.




So, I've addressed this before. There's a difference between supporting people's rights to be who they want to be... and most people support gay rights. Support for gay rights have continued to go up year over year for the past three decades. That said, in just the last 3 years... support for gay rights has plummeted 11% overall between Democrats AND Republicans in the United States.

That's because people are feeling culturally manipulated. Right or wrong, this is still the United States, and we are generally raised from puritanical views. A gay pride parade with naked old men gyrating in front of children is not what traditional "gay rights" supporters envisioned. Let me put it this way... the reactions that parents / families / middle class are giving for things like Drag Readings, are the exact same reactions you'd see if there were Stripper or Prostitute story time.

Stating that Republicans want to end LGBT, is not a legitimate statement, and not rooted in any fact.
ray b JUL 17, 01:40 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:


I suppose the next bs you post will interpret "Suffer the little children to come unto me" as the basis for the drag queen parties and chlid grooming.

You're one sick sob.



no you are the sick obsessive one
I do not like false advertising or drag Q
or understand grooming as a thing
as most gays are gay and strait's strait
were your con-vinced to like girls ?

the only kind of grooming was pimps terror on girls
they wanted to streetwalk
sad but not a gay thing

knew a few gay hustlers way back when
none had pimps or were conned
AIDS got them
fredtoast JUL 17, 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
And none of this is "fake" ... it's well understood that 1/3rd of student loan holders used the additional cash during the pause to buy luxury items, get new car loans, mortgages, etc., and not pay off existing student loans. This is because they believed that Biden would be able to pay off their debt with student loan forgiveness. I posted several articles both here and in other threads, all from Forbes, Wall Street Journal, and Marketwatch. Go look it up.






Your facts are correct. I do not dispute that 1/3rd of borrowers with student loan debt took out additional debt.

But your conclusion that they only did it because they got a temporary break is not true. Even before there was any break in student loan payments lots of people with student loan debt were getting loans to but new cars and houses. They did it because they had good jobs and could afford it.

With no context your "1/3rd' stat is meaningless. In fact it could actually be LOWER than before there was any break in payments. We don't know. This is how political propaganda works. They propose a conclusion that is not supported by facts, but if it is what that side wants to hear they don't bother looking for huge gaping holes in the argument. They want them tobe true so they just blindly accept them.
fredtoast JUL 17, 09:28 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
No, he was conflating payments to the government and payments to private lenders as being a "wash" for the economy. Which is complete nonsense because student loan payments to the government have very little effect on the overall economy since we pass spending bills without any real consideration for the outstanding debt it causes (so literally zero-effect). .


Sorry, but I am completely lost here. Didn't you just post an article tah said if all these people defaulted on their student loans then the stock market would crash?


How could they have "zero effect" and still cause a crash of the stock market?
randye JUL 17, 09:35 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:


si-fi ????
no just religious BS used in a way you do not like

I do think the fictional son of a fictional god would support my version of the book over rhonda's
as his is tooo mean and what is in it for my boys style
ray b JUL 17, 11:34 PM
so why is that your problem to fix ?
or rhonda's ?

and why is your claimed creator of the universe
so hung up on sex on one planet by one group ?
really he has that little to do ?

btw with way too many people on this small planet now
was the be fruitful and multiply bit bad advice ?

and why not the 7 year plan
as is in the buy-bull for debts

btw2 I never said kids should dance naked
but have no fear of a naked body
as they very seldom are armed

praying is ok
but the religious have a habit of PREYING ON OTHERS
BY TWISTING THEIR WORDS LIKE YOU DID

THAT IS NOT OK
ray b JUL 18, 11:11 AM
empathy, decency, and kindness​
That's Woke isn't it?

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are you kind?

82-T/A [At Work] JUL 18, 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by fredtoast:

Sorry, but I am completely lost here. Didn't you just post an article tah said if all these people defaulted on their student loans then the stock market would crash?

How could they have "zero effect" and still cause a crash of the stock market?




Is this a reading comprehension problem, because I don't want to waste my time with you if you are just intentionally trying to be a pain in the ass to me. I do not care if you love Democrats and hate Republicans. I'm only interested in having a substantive conversation. So please let me know so I no longer have to waste my time.


I talked about how economists are warning about a potential black-swan event, and the Biden administration is hoping to prevent one. They fear (as many outlets have stated), that when the loan repayment has to start again, that it might spark recessionary behavior that culminates in several economic issues occurring at the same time. The Biden administration has also stated this numerous times in an effort to increase support for student loan repayment. The "looming student loan crisis" is what they've been talking about.

Regardless of your opinion... only 18% of student loan holders were making payments during the pause. The other 82% are not. At least 1/3rd have taken on NEW debt, and the rest are either saving (hopefully) or spending on other luxury items.

As I said, the fear is that as a result of student loans, it may result in people defaulting on car payments (because they're underwater and figure, why bother), ballooning mortgage payments (as a result of dramatically increased property taxes and insurance costs), and in general... ~30+ million people who will no longer have that extra ~$250/monthly discretionary spending in the economy along with other issues. Black swan event... this is what they're trying to prevent, and they "fear" it could be caused by the student loan repayment restart.