Joe Biden and Classified Documents (Page 3/17)
rinselberg JAN 11, 07:25 AM
The differences between this Penn Biden Center case and "Mar-A-Lago", based on what's been reported to date, are glaringly obvious.

I await further developments, but as it stands now, this viewgraph looks like a good summary of what's currently known.



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randye JAN 11, 07:29 AM

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Originally posted by blackrams:

Interesting information reported this morning, the "Documents" were reported to be in reference to the UK, Ukraine and Iran. Hmm...........

Reported to be in a locked closet in the office former VP Biden used. Are we sure that's the truth?

It's interesting that Democrats don't think this is a serious violation of security or possibly influence peddling but, it's different for Trump.
All I'm looking for is fairness. IMHO, HRC should have been prosecuted, it was proven that she had the classified information on her private server and attempted to hide and destroy the evidence. The same may be true of DJT (although, it's been reported that DJT's documents were declassified) and President Biden (who has been accused of influence peddling along with his son Hunter), I don't have the inside information to say one way or another but, if that lap top had belonged to DJT's son, you can bet your bippy there would have been accusations and probably charges filed.

Anyone who denies this isn't political in nature is quite frankly full of crap and a partisan hack. I honestly don't want DJT to run for President but, I would like his policies to be continued.





Note that neither Biden or Clinton were POTUS and neither had the executive authority to manage classified materials as they wish.

Additionally, it's notable that VP Biden essentially stole classified documents from the Obama administration and secreted them away.

From Sandy "in his pants" Berger, to Hillary to Brandon and from Bradley Manning to Reality Winner and Edward Snowden and many more, the Leftists have a long and sordid history of stealing government secret documents.


Leftists gotta Leftist
...and you can't even trust them not to steal the loose change on top of your dresser.

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blackrams JAN 11, 11:08 AM
Whether it's true or not, it's been reported that every document found at Mara logo was packed up and delivered there by the National Archives folks.
Yet, there is no record of National Archives delivering any classified information to the Penn Biden office. Hmmm

Rams
rinselberg JAN 11, 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by blackrams:
Whether it's true or not ...


He could have stopped right there.


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Jake_Dragon JAN 11, 12:37 PM
We are ****ed, well probably not most of the people on this forum but soon enough this is going to come to a head and on a global scale.
Once the young are screwed over it wont be long before the rest of use are screwed as well.

If it is found that he "acquired" these documents when he was VP and had no right to them then where will it go?
The crime syndicate is never going to let one of the "team" be compromised. Biden is old, I hope that nothing happens and we can get to the bottom of this.

I don't want just JB to answer, I want them all to answer.
82-T/A [At Work] JAN 11, 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

The differences between this Penn Biden Center case and "Mar-A-Lago", based on what's been reported to date, are glaringly obvious.

I await further developments, but as it stands now, this viewgraph looks like a good summary of what's currently known.





How President Biden and Donald Trump differ on classified documents:

- Biden had no authority to declassify documents. Biden stored his classified documents (which would have been stolen since he had no authority to take them), in an unclassified space.
- Trump had the utmost senior authority to declassify anything, at any time... literally, waving his hand over a stack of documents to declassify them is within his right to do so. He brought them from the White House to Mar-a-Largo which had been outfitted as a SCIF and TEMPEST-certified.
blackrams JAN 11, 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
How President Biden and Donald Trump differ on classified documents:

- Biden had no authority to declassify documents. Biden stored his classified documents (which would have been stolen since he had no authority to take them), in an unclassified space.
- Trump had the utmost senior authority to declassify anything, at any time... literally, waving his hand over a stack of documents to declassify them is within his right to do so. He brought them from the White House to Mar-a-Largo which had been outfitted as a SCIF and TEMPEST-certified.



Biden also had possession of those documents for approximately six years................. Now he doesn't remember anything about it.

Rams
rinselberg JAN 11, 02:21 PM
This blogger has some "takes" on this story that separate him from the pack (of various media reports about this story). It's dated January 10. Just a day ago.

https://www.emptywheel.net/...ments-at-penn-biden/

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Some outlets, including the NYT [New York Times], have managed to explain that unlike Trump, the Biden office did not refuse to give documents back—though many, like the NYT, have insane comments about why Biden and DOJ didn’t disclose an ongoing investigation when (among other things) that would violate DOJ policy.



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blackrams JAN 11, 02:56 PM
Disclosure of the documents was two months after the mid-terms and was only admitted to when a reporter dug deep.

Curious how that happened, huh............

Rams
rinselberg JAN 11, 03:18 PM

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Originally posted by blackrams:

Disclosure of the documents was two months after the mid-terms and was only admitted to when a reporter dug deep.

Curious how that happened, huh............


I'm curious as well. I haven't turned up anything that brings that into focus for me. I think CBS News was the first to report anything about this. But what clued a reporter to "dig deep"..? Did someone "leak"..? Did someone "blow a whistle"..?

Andrew Weissman—who likely just goes by "AW" in law-savvy company—says that the White House could have gone public about the discovery of these documents in a way that would not have conflicted with DOJ requirements to protect what had become an ongoing investigation. AW thinks the White House has shot itself in the foot (so to speak), politically, by not having disclosed this to the public.