Carbon dioxide hysteria (Page 3/170)
rinselberg DEC 12, 01:05 AM
Scroll backwards to see what was on the ground before it got covered up by snow.
82-T/A [At Work] DEC 12, 08:43 AM
I've started wearing a carbon-filter infused mask over my face, and in my underwear where I fart, 24/7 now. I'm trying to do my part for society and the rest of you should too.
williegoat DEC 12, 10:35 AM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

I've started wearing a carbon-filter infused mask over my face, and in my underwear where I fart, 24/7 now. I'm trying to do my part for society and the rest of you should too.


Do you realize how many carbons they had to fleece to get that fiber? You should be ashamed of yourself.


rinselberg DEC 12, 12:37 PM
Several weeks ago, an online venue known as TheBestSchools(.org) published a very long interview with William Happer, whose views were the subject of the Original Post.

"William Happer’s Interview on Global Warming"
TBS Staff; September 19, 2022.
https://thebestschools.org/...r-on-global-warming/

A valuable addition to anyone's William Happer dossier.
rinselberg DEC 12, 07:05 PM

"I'm flooding the zone!"
82-T/A [At Work] DEC 13, 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:


"I'm flooding the zone!"




I can get behind this if the ROI is there... but like buying solar for my own home, it would take me a full decade to realize an actual savings... so in the end, is it worth it?

There are some things we'd need to consider:
- How much power does one single sea-based windmill produce?
- How much does it cost to build one of these?
- How much does it cost to install one of these?
- How much does it cost to transfer power from one of these? (cabling costs, etc.)
- How much does it cost to annually maintain one of these?
- How long will one of these last before it needs to be completely replaced?


Personally... I am not seeing a reality where the gain outweighs the cost. The cost for something like this is probably astronomical... significantly more than a land-based one. I'd have to assume that a simple natural gas power plant, or even a new Gen3/Gen4 nuclear power plant, while more expensive than a single one... would be significantly more efficient and provide significantly greater power than a collection of sea-based windmills at the same cost.

I'm open to hearing otherwise... but I also consider what effect a storm would have on something like this... or even a hurricane.
rinselberg DEC 13, 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

I can get behind this if the ROI is there... but like buying solar for my own home, it would take me a full decade to realize an actual savings... so in the end, is it worth it?

<SNIP>

Personally... I am not seeing a reality where the gain outweighs the cost. The cost for something like this is probably astronomical... significantly more than a land-based one. I'd have to assume that a simple natural gas power plant, or even a new Gen3/Gen4 nuclear power plant, while more expensive than a single one... would be significantly more efficient and provide significantly greater power than a collection of sea-based windmills at the same cost.

I'm open to hearing otherwise... but I also consider what effect a storm would have on something like this... or even a hurricane.


I think this is one of the better "reads" on the subject. If someone were to read it attentively from first word to last... about 10 minutes of reading. It was published only a week ago.

"California’s coming offshore wind boom faces big engineering hurdles"

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The US is auctioning off its first floating offshore wind power sites this week, which could unlock a vast new source of clean electricity along the West Coast.

James Temple for MIT Technology Review; December 5, 2022.
https://www.technologyrevie...engineering-hurdles/

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The appeal of floating wind is obvious. Somewhere around 60 meters deep (nearly 200 feet) it becomes impractical for developers to build what are called fixed wind foundations. But the winds above deep waters far off the coast are often ideal: strong and consistent.

Off Morro Bay and other potential California sites, the winds dip at midday but rise in the early evening, in nearly perfect sync with consumer demand—and in much the opposite pattern from the electricity generated by solar farms.

Those characteristics will help the state’s grid operators draw more of their electricity from carbon-free sources through the evening, which will serve an increasingly crucial function as the California power sector moves off fossil fuels, says Alla Weinstein, chief executive of Trident Winds, which is a partner in the Castle Wind joint venture, which is bidding in the auction this week.

The state’s climate laws will require 90% of its electricity to come from such resources by 2035. That same year, California will mandate that all new passenger vehicles sold in the state must be zero-emissions, placing growing demands on the grid.



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Research groups estimate that the costs [of floating offshore wind] could fall from around $200 per megawatt-hour to between $58 and $120 by 2030. That would leave floating offshore wind more expensive than solar and onshore wind, but it could still serve an important role in an overall energy portfolio.


This is why the Department of Energy is calling these efforts the Floating Offshore Wind SHOT—as in "moonshot"—instead of the Floating Offshore Wind PLAN.

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cliffw DEC 13, 01:08 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

"I'm flooding the zone!"



The first off shore wind farm ? There is only one damn windmill.

40 years of off shore experience ? What kind of off shore experience ?

Is that off shore windmill floating free, no tethers to keep it place ?

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Did you hear that noise ? It sounded like a bomb went off. Breaking news, .... AOC's movie / documentary, "To The End" was released this past weekend. At 120 theaters. It brought in $80.00 a theater.

If the movie theater ticket was only $10.00, Eight people overcrowded the theater.
rinselberg DEC 13, 01:12 PM

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Only a handful of mostly small demonstration projects have been developed so far, totalling around 125 megawatts, according to a Department of Energy report published earlier this year. The largest floating farm in the world so far is the nearly 50-megawatt Kincardine project off the shores of Scotland. There are also small projects operating in China, Japan, France, Norway, and Portugal, the report notes.

There are big plans to build more globally. The total capacity of projects in the pipeline—including large sites in Australia, Brazil, South Korea, and the United Kingdom—doubled in 2021, to more than 60 gigawatts.

The Biden administration has set a US goal of developing 15 gigawatts of floating wind by 2035 and established a program designed to cut the cost of the technology by 70% over that time. (It’s also aiming to build 30 gigawatts of all types of offshore wind by 2030.)


https://www.technologyrevie...engineering-hurdles/
cliffw DEC 13, 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:
This is why the Department of Energy is calling these efforts the Floating Offshore Wind SHOT—as in "moonshot"—instead of the Floating Offshore Wind PLAN.



NASA's landing on the Moon did have a plan.