"2000 Mules" (Page 3/22)
ray b MAY 05, 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

Names, locations and details are all in the movie. Why are you afraid to watch it?




so name the names places ect

very very much do NOT want to fund this creep in any even the smallest way

very broad-brush charges to get the sheep excited
no bank records no checks no people saying I got paid by so and so on this date at this place
standard villeins suspected but no proof not even a fake pimp or ho this time on camera

follow the money
but they can't
as they can't find any money to follow
so came up with the cell phone fake data plan
basically if the money is real they can find it
esp spread over thousands of others
some body would give them up
or be a spy inserted in the plan

but no we have yet an other joke of a claim
no rudy no ninjas no pillows no facts no money
just drive by phones by phonies

CAN'T YOUR SIDE MAKE ONE CLAIM AND STICK TO IT

olejoedad MAY 05, 03:53 PM
Speaking of jokes, have you been following the actions of the current Administration?
williegoat MAY 05, 04:42 PM
The evidence has been subpoenaed by the state of Georgia: https://www.ajc.com/politic...XPFGGRMVWCVKHHZTKQA/

The deposition is scheduled for later this month.

A report from True the Vote dated March 18, 2022: https://www.truethevote.org...ILE_5193_no-meta.pdf

[This message has been edited by williegoat (edited 05-05-2022).]

williegoat MAY 05, 07:29 PM
Here are the laws in each of the five states regarding who may return a ballot on behalf of another:
source: https://ballotpedia.org/Bal...ction)_laws_by_state


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Arizona
Arizona permits a family member, household member, or caregiver to return a voter's absentee ballot. It establishes the collection of early ballots by anyone outside those groups as a class 6 felony. The law states the following:

H. A person who knowingly collects voted or unvoted early ballots from another person is guilty of a class 6 felony. An election official, a United States postal service worker or any other person who is allowed by law to transmit United States mail is deemed not to have collected an early ballot if the official, worker or other person is engaged in official duties.
I. Subsection H of this section does not apply to: ...
A family member, household member or caregiver of the voter. For the purposes of this paragraph:
(a) "Caregiver" means a person who provides medical or health care assistance to the voter in a residence, nursing care institution, hospice facility, assisted living center, assisted living facility, assisted living home, residential care institution, adult day health care facility or adult foster care home.
(b) "Collects" means to gain possession or control of an early ballot.
(c) "Family member" means a person who is related to the voter by blood, marriage, adoption or legal guardianship.
(d) "Household member" means a person who resides at the same residence as the voter.[3]

Georgia
In Georgia, a voter with a physical disability may have their absentee ballot returned by a family member (defined by the law) or a household member. Voters confined to a hospital can vote an absentee ballot immediately upon delivery by a registrar or absentee ballot clerk and return it to the official.
The law states that absentee ballot "delivery by a physically disabled elector may be made by any adult person upon satisfactory proof that such adult person is such elector's mother, father, grandparent, aunt, uncle, brother, sister, spouse, son, daughter, niece, nephew, grandchild, son-in-law, daughter-in-law, mother-in-law, father-in-law, brother-in-law, sister-in-law, or an individual residing in the household of such disabled elector. An elector who is confined to a hospital on a primary or election day to whom an absentee ballot is delivered by the registrar or absentee ballot clerk shall then and there vote the ballot, seal it properly, and return it to the registrar or absentee ballot clerk."

Michigan
Michigan law permits a household member or a family member (defined by law), or an election official if those options are not available, to return a voter's absentee ballot.

Step 5. Deliver the return envelope by 1 of the following methods:
(a) Place the necessary postage upon the return envelope and deposit it in the United States mail or with another public postal service, express mail service, parcel post service, or common carrier.
(b) Deliver the envelope personally to the office of the clerk, to the clerk, or to an authorized assistant of the clerk.
(c) In either (a) or (b), a member of the immediate family of the voter including a father-in-law, mother-in-law, brother-in-law, sister-in-law, son-in-law, daughter-in-law, grandparent, or grandchild or a person residing in the voter's household may mail or deliver a ballot to the clerk for the voter.
(d) You may request by telephone that the clerk who issued the ballot provide assistance in returning the ballot. The clerk is required to provide assistance if you are unable to return your absent voter ballot as specified in (a), (b), or (c) above, if it is before 5 p.m. on the Friday immediately preceding the election, and if you are asking the clerk to pickup the absent voter ballot within the jurisdictional limits of the city, township, or village in which you are registered. Your absent voter ballot will then be picked up by the clerk or an election assistant sent by the clerk. All persons authorized to pick up absent voter ballots are required to carry credentials issued by the clerk. If using this absent voter ballot return method, do not give your ballot to anyone until you have checked their credentials.
Step 6. The ballot must reach the clerk or an authorized assistant of the clerk before the close of the polls on election day. An absent voter ballot received by the clerk or assistant of the clerk after the close of the polls on election day will not be counted. ...
WARNING
All of the following actions are violations of the Michigan election law and are illegal in this state:
(1) To vote an absent voter ballot at a meeting or gathering at which other people are voting absent voter ballots.
(2) For a person who is assisting an absent voter in marking the ballot to suggest or in any manner attempt to influence the absent voter on how he or she should vote.
(3) For a person who is present and knows that a person is voting an absent voter ballot to suggest or in any manner attempt to influence the absent voter on how he or she should vote.
(4) For a person other than those listed in these instructions to return, offer to return, agree to return, or solicit to return an absent voter ballot to the clerk.
(5) For a person other than the absent voter; a person listed in these instructions; or a person whose job it is to handle mail before, during, or after being transported by a public postal service, express mail service, parcel post service, or common carrier, but only during the normal course of his or her employment to be in possession of a voted or unvoted absent voter ballot. [3]

Pennsylvania
In Pennsylvania, a voter who qualifies for an emergency absentee ballot may authorize in writing a representative to return their ballot. If an authorized representative is not available, a deputy sheriff or constable may deliver and return the emergency ballot.

In the event any elector otherwise qualified who becomes so physically disabled or ill between five o'clock P.M. on the first Friday preceding any primary or election and eight o'clock P.M. on the day of any primary or election that he is unable to appear at his polling place or any elector otherwise qualified who because of the conduct of his business, duties or occupation will necessarily be absent from the municipality of his residence on the day of the primary or election, which fact was not and could not reasonably be known to said elector prior to five o'clock P.M. on the first Friday preceding any primary or election, the elector shall be entitled to an absentee ballot if the elector completes and files with the court of common pleas in the county in which the elector is qualified to vote an Emergency Application or a letter or other signed document, which includes the same information as is provided on the Emergency Application.  Upon a determination that the elector is a qualified absentee elector under section 1301, the judge shall issue an absentee ballot to the elector.  If the elector is unable to appear in court to receive the ballot, the judge shall give the elector's absentee ballot to an authorized representative of the elector who is designated in writing by the elector.  The authorized representative shall deliver the absentee ballot to the elector and return the completed absentee ballot, sealed in the official absentee ballot envelopes, to the county board of elections, who shall distribute the ballot, unopened, to the absentee voter's election district.  If the elector is unable to appear in court or unable to obtain assistance from an authorized representative, the judge shall direct a deputy sheriff of the county to deliver the absentee ballot to the elector if the elector is at a physical location within the county and return the completed absentee ballot, sealed in the official absentee ballot envelopes, to the county board of elections, who shall distribute the ballots, unopened, to the absentee voter's respective election district.  If there is no authorized representative and a deputy sheriff is unavailable to deliver an absentee ballot under this section, the judge may direct a constable to make such delivery in accordance with the provisions of this section.[3]

Wisconsin
Wisconsin law does not specify whether someone may return mail ballots on behalf of voters.



Some of those people in the surveillance videos must live in a very large house with their huge family.
Fats MAY 06, 01:08 PM
The Lefties cheated in every possible way, and then deny deny deny for as long as possible, likely forever.

It's a tale as old as time.

Lie, cheat, and steal to get the result they want. Then lie about it ever happening for the rest of time.

And we could name instance after instance of this happening.
rinselberg MAY 06, 01:28 PM
"Here’s the full transcript and audio of the [phone] call [of January 2, 2021] between Trump and [Georgia Secretary of State Brad] Raffensperger"
Amy Gardner and Paulina Firozi for the Washington Post; January 5, 2021.
https://www.washingtonpost....644d82356_story.html

Oldies but goodies. A trip down Memory Lane. It Is What It Is.

If you haven't read this transcript before, and want to capitalize on the convenience of this opportunity, I think this Internet page link will likely grant you access to the article, even in the unlikely [sic] circumstance that you do not have an online subscription to the Washington Post. A "freebie." Unless you've recently been perusing other online articles from the Washington Post, or "WaPo" as the in-crowd sometimes calls it. That "effete corps of impudent snobs” and “nattering nabobs of negativism” that was and remains the Liberal Establishment that you so well know and loathe.

Just another one of my "Rorschach" moments where I offer whatever first comes to my mind, after reading what has just been posted.

[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 05-06-2022).]

Jake_Dragon MAY 06, 01:44 PM
Here is my problem with the entire thing.
By the time Trump took his hand off the bible and was sworn in as the President the Democrats and even some Republicans started a smear campaign.
Half truths and out right lies were propagated in the media and people were manipulated into riots by that same media.

I don't care what you think of Trump, its not relevant. This was an attack on the sitting president, this distracted him from doing his job.
Its time that we the people take this government in hand and ask for accountability.

No more unsecure votes, you can't prove who you are then you can't vote. End of story.
It has to start somewhere and this is not voter suppression don't even start with that bull **** .
ray b MAY 06, 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

Here is my problem with the entire thing.
By the time Trump took his hand off the bible and was sworn in as the President the Democrats and even some Republicans started a smear campaign.
Half truths and out right lies were propagated in the media and people were manipulated into riots by that same media.

I don't care what you think of Trump, its not relevant. This was an attack on the sitting president, this distracted him from doing his job.
Its time that we the people take this government in hand and ask for accountability.

No more unsecure votes, you can't prove who you are then you can't vote. End of story.
It has to start somewhere and this is not voter suppression don't even start with that bull **** .



of course it is suppression
that is the rightwings only hope

I want more votes not less

how about thumb prints to vote no id no registration weeks or months before

just show up use you thumb print as ID end of story and BS
it is a positive ID not fakes

avg local elections get 5 to 10% of the people to vote
that needs to change
if we are lucky a major election gets maybe 50% of the people on the rolls to vote
and that is way less the 50% of the people

the rightwings only hope is to limit votes
we must fight that evil idea

I think every one should vote or be fined
olejoedad MAY 06, 02:46 PM
I think every legitimate vote from every registered citizen should count.

I do not agree with same day voter registration.

Election Day should be the only day for voting.

Absentee voting should be carefully monitored for valid identification, and arranged in advance.

No mail-in voting - none.
ray b MAY 06, 03:29 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

I think every legitimate vote from every registered citizen should count.

I do not agree with same day voter registration.

Election Day should be the only day for voting.

Absentee voting should be carefully monitored for valid identification, and arranged in advance.

No mail-in voting - none.



what if the mail in has a thumb print ?
why must voters be restricted in any way [we know that is the rights only hope]
why not every thumb votes without the BS of jumping thru hoops
weeks or months in advance

maybe it not about illegals at all
but about the reichwing's favorite subject CON-TROLL