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theBDub
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MAR 30, 05:13 PM
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Never going to happen. As work continues to be automated, there will be more work to be done in other places, more efficiencies to be had and more horizons to be reached.
Work will never be fully automated - it'll shift.
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randye
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MAR 30, 05:24 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
"Prove me wrong"
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Asking people to prove you wrong is like asking them to prove that water is wet.
It's a given.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 03-30-2022).]
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Fats
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APR 01, 12:44 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by theBDub:
Never going to happen. As work continues to be automated, there will be more work to be done in other places, more efficiencies to be had and more horizons to be reached.
Work will never be fully automated - it'll shift. |
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Hey, something I can agree with.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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APR 01, 08:15 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by theBDub:
Never going to happen. As work continues to be automated, there will be more work to be done in other places, more efficiencies to be had and more horizons to be reached.
Work will never be fully automated - it'll shift. |
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I agree with this. It's always been this way in history with all the inventions that people said would lead to people being unemployed. Sometimes it does temporarily... but there's always work to be done.
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MidEngineManiac
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APR 01, 08:33 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
.. but there's always work to be done. |
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Ya there is...Question is, are ya gonna pay and make that work worthwhile for somebody else ?
If ya aint and just want free labor, they got better things to do.....
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Like harvest belly-button lint and picking nose hairs while telling ya to do it yourself,
I've heard it all before from "small business owners",,,,,,,,,"I cant afford to pay much".....
OK, fine then. I dont have time to work much. Call when ya feel like paying.[This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 04-01-2022).]
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olejoedad
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APR 01, 08:41 AM
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Does anyone remember the movie WALL-E?
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2.5
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APR 01, 10:14 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
I think the difference between what you see and what I see in that other message is that you are not as closely familiar as I am with that individual's body of work on this forum over the (many) years.
You're not "reading between the lines."
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I think that type of reading between lines as you are mentioning, becomes a crutch for not arguing the actual argument.
Also I'm talking about the whole thread and its ideas being communicated.
"you all" ???[This message has been edited by 2.5 (edited 04-01-2022).]
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2.5
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APR 01, 10:17 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by theBDub:
Never going to happen. As work continues to be automated, there will be more work to be done in other places, more efficiencies to be had and more horizons to be reached.
Work will never be fully automated - it'll shift. |
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The possible problem is it should shift, but they don't let it / make it shift.
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theBDub
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APR 01, 11:20 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by 2.5:
The possible problem is it should shift, but they don't let it / make it shift. |
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Who is they?
IMO, there will always be something that someone is willing to pay someone else for.
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rinselberg
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APR 01, 12:35 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 2.5:
I think that type of reading between lines as you are mentioning, becomes a crutch for not arguing the actual argument. Also I'm talking about the whole thread and its ideas being communicated. |
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I was referring specifically to "randye", and I hold fast to what I said to you, about the difference between what you see in his remarks, and what I see in his remarks. It's because you are not as familiar as I am with his "body of work"... all of his forum posts, over all the years.
He uses the word "Leftist" and its various analogues as kind of a "smear tactic."
He rants about Karl Marx and the legacy of Communism, but as he continues his rants, his words reveal that it's not just Communists in his crosshairs, or Communists and Socialists in his crosshairs. It's the "Left."
In this thread, he has called out the "Lazy Left."
So who's among the "Lazy Left"..? Could be just about anyone, considering the reckless abandon that is the way that "randye" continually repeats the words "Left" and "Leftists" in his rants. It's like a shaman's chant.
Is the famously "not very liberal" West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin part of the "Lazy Left" in randye's eyes? Manchin is affiliated with the Democratic Party. He caucuses with the Democrats.
Joe Manchin, Bernie Sanders, AOC, "the Squad", the more moderate or "centered" House Democrats like Elissa Slotkin, Abigail Spanberger and Cindy Axne..? All they all part of "randye's Lazy Left"..? Are they all equally culpable and condemnable in "randye's" eyes?
Like many of the infamous demagogues of history, "orator randye" is purposely not careful with his words.
This forum topic is about some speculative future that is not all that much closer to current and foreseeable realities than interplanetary commerce and Solar System space travel on the grand scale. The topic was framed by a brief column about the ideas of Aaron Bastani, who emerges in this column (the original post) as a Futurist. I don't think the temperament of the discussion here, on Pennock's, "gets" that. At last, not entirely. And "randye's" part of it, certainly not.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 04-01-2022).]
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