Ukraine, and a lot of bull **** ... (Page 3/3)
randye MAR 01, 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:


Last 20+ years of history:





Not a bad mini-summary Todd but if anyone wants to know more about what is really going on you have to go back a lot further than 20 years.

Here's a small hint:

In the 1980's Vladimir Putin was a young KGB officer with a wife, (Ludmila), and a newborn child. He was stationed in Dresden, East Germany.



The East German apartment block that he lived in was specially reserved for "Stasi", (East German communist state security officers) and for KGB, (Soviet intelligence officers).

One of Vladimir and Ludmila Putin's neighbors, and close friend, in that building was Mattias Warnig, a young communist German Stasi officer.

Would you like to guess who the managing director / CEO of the Nordstream pipeline is today?




Then there are Vladimir's old Dresden Germany fellow Soviet KGB officers; Sergey Chemezov and Nikolai Tokarev.

Chemezov used to run the Russian government's official arms export agency and now runs a state program supporting weapons technology development.



Nikolai Tokarev is the head of the Russian state pipeline company, Transneft.



The previously mentioned Mattias Warnig of Nordstream also sits on the board of directors of Transneft along with Tokarev.


A lot of the roads in the Kremlin lead straight back to Dresden, East Germany in the 1980s

I was also a young military intelligence officer in the mid 1980s, but I was stationed on the Western side of the inter-German border when Vladimir and friends were stationed in Dresden.

I was working for a different country than they were....

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olejoedad MAR 02, 12:25 AM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

The mainstream media narrative is racial. If you can't recognize it, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
There is nothing wrong with being aware of race, unless you're brain washed. There is nothing virtuous about pretending not to recognize race.


You're looking through the msm lens, I guess.

Your pattern is to say nothing of substance while making personal insults because you can't respond articulately on topics. You admit defeat but can't just accept it honorably.

I've become accustomed to having a better memory, having greater ability to critically reason and being more informed than most people.



Your "special gift"?
If I cared to articulate on topics I would.
But, this is an internet forum, nothing will be settled no matter what is written.
sourmash MAR 02, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:Your "special gift"?
If I cared to articulate on topics I would.
But, this is an internet forum, nothing will be settled no matter what is written.




Oh, but you RESPOND on this forum by metaphorically spitting at people while offering no content that supports or refutes any position. In reality, you know you're not equipt with a sorted position to defend.

I suspect that's why people in your AO don't help you learn how to pronounce Mackinac properly. It's so other Michiganders can ID that they're talking to an outsider.
2.5 MAR 02, 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by Fats:

There is a new Avatar for Twitter and Facebook so the "masses" don't have to keep swapping them out in these trying times.




Could say I support virtue signaling

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Wichita MAR 03, 10:20 AM
Jake_Dragon MAR 03, 07:15 PM
sourmash MAR 03, 07:44 PM
The last 2 , lol.
rinselberg MAR 05, 10:49 AM
"As war loomed, U.S. armed Ukraine to hit Russian aircraft [and] tanks[,] and prep for urban combat, declassified shipment list shows"


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The United States drastically enhanced its shipments of lethal military aid and protective equipment to Ukraine as the prospect of a Russian invasion became more apparent and then a reality, according to a declassified accounting of transfers and sales reviewed by The Washington Post.

The list indicates that as early as December, the Pentagon was equipping Ukrainian fighters with arms and equipment useful for fighting in urban areas, including shotguns and specialized suits to safeguard soldiers handling unexploded ordnance. Over the last week, the Biden administration has increased such shipments, sending Stinger antiaircraft missile systems for the first time and further augmenting Kyiv’s supply of antitank Javelin missiles and other ammunition.

Taken together, the variety, volume and potency of firepower being rushed into the war zone illustrate the extent to which the United States sought to prepare the Ukrainian military to wage a hybrid war against Russia, even as President Biden has expressly ruled out inserting American troops into the conflict. . . .


Karoun Demirjian and Alex Horton for "WaPo"; March 4, 2022.
https://www.washingtonpost..../us-weapons-ukraine/

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sourmash MAR 05, 01:07 PM
Russia will just bomb the shipments at this point.
The USA is habitually on the wrong side.