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Raydar
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MAY 04, 08:55 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
The news is very confusing. Nothing has been voted on and if it was then it is putting the power back in the states hands where they can choose what to uphold. I think its along the same lines and "someone" colluded with the Russians. We know how that turned out. The "Government" has grown too big and they are feeling that power slip so they react. Everyone votes then finds out it was fake or misleading. Rinse repeat. |
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Are you suggesting that this might be a "false flag"? If so, that's kind of my thought.
The general consensus is that the Dems are going to take a shellacking in the mid-terms. Might this "leak" just be a ploy to energize them, and maybe to minimize their losses? Wouldn't surprise me a bit.[This message has been edited by Raydar (edited 05-04-2022).]
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Jake_Dragon
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MAY 04, 10:20 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Raydar:
Are you suggesting that this might be a "false flag"? If so, that's kind of my thought.
The general consensus is that the Dems are going to take a shellacking in the mid-terms. Might this "leak" just be a ploy to energize them, and maybe to minimize their losses? Wouldn't surprise me a bit.
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I believe it is twisted and blown out of proportion. This is a leak without perspective, was it political driven? Doesn't matter it will be 100% used by politicians to manipulate voters. But end of the day this is about the law, its removing the "law" at the federal level and putting it back in the hands of the states where it can be better managed based on the voters and what they want. What works in Florida is not going to work in CA.
End of the day its not directly effecting me anymore. I hope that people can be more responsible, directly or indirectly the ripples from one persons indiscretion can cause a lot of problems. It should not be up to the government to resolve those.
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williegoat
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MAY 04, 11:15 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Raydar:
Are you suggesting that this might be a "false flag"? If so, that's kind of my thought.
The general consensus is that the Dems are going to take a shellacking in the mid-terms. Might this "leak" just be a ploy to energize them, and maybe to minimize their losses? Wouldn't surprise me a bit.
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I absolutely believe the leak and the ensuing hullabaloo are part of a carefully orchestrated political strategy.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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MAY 04, 11:35 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Raydar:
Are you suggesting that this might be a "false flag"? If so, that's kind of my thought.
The general consensus is that the Dems are going to take a shellacking in the mid-terms. Might this "leak" just be a ploy to energize them, and maybe to minimize their losses? Wouldn't surprise me a bit.
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I hate to agree with this... but... everything seems too well coordinated.
I also think they knew this was coming anyway, so it doesn't take more than 30-45 minutes to update the draft of a speech that was intended to be given.
I think this hurts Democrats though... with this coming out NOW, it wasn't really planned to come out at any point until June through October (unless I have my dates wrong).
With this coming out early, I suspect much of this drama will wear off.
Most of the country believes that from one day to the next, everyone in the country will be prevented from having an abortion. The reality is that almost every state has provisions for abortion against rape and / or incest (which makes up 1/10th of 1% of abortions). The other reality is that in at least half the states, you can still kill babies whenever you want, to your heart's content. Another reality is that for the other 23-25 states, it's not a total ban, there's still some leeway.
As people lose their **** and actually start looking into it, the "fear" will wear off, and it'll wear off soon... and they'll start going back to the fact that nearly all of us have lost 15-20% of our retirements (yes, I know... everyone else is more awesome and invested in this and that, whatever), and that gas prices and food / commodities continue to go up, while pay does not go up.
They'll forget about killing babies, and remember that they're broke, and vote accordingly.
So if it is planned, the Democrats are just flat-out retarded.
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olejoedad
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MAY 04, 11:55 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
I absolutely believe the leak and the ensuing hullabaloo are part of a carefully orchestrated political strategy. |
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From the party of dirty tricks.
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ray b
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MAY 04, 05:10 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
From the party of dirty tricks. |
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forgot about nixon did we ? he earn the tricky dicky tytle by HARD WORK
ron raygun traded with iran our enemy replacement parts in a very dirty deal to delay the hostages release in 1980 and insure carter did not get re-elected
BuSh2 loss to gore but jeb cheated the counts
gore won by 1/2 MILLION
THE RUMP LOST BY 3 MILLION IN 16 AND 7 MILLION IN 20 and the real nuts still claim he ''won''
btw other then mr O breaking the hearts of racists everywhere I fail to see your point
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2.5
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MAY 04, 05:20 PM
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Changing the subject will get you no where.
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ray b
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MAY 04, 05:21 PM
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btw everywhere the count is 70/30% on legal abortions
the godbothered who favor tali-ban like gods laws are NOT a majority except in the bible belt
and every news poll said 70/30
if the Gop thinks this will be their issue in nov 22 they will lose big time 70/30 is not a winning strategy
what is the WW2 quote they have awaken an intractable enemy
this will not end the way our con's think it will
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olejoedad
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MAY 04, 05:23 PM
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Of course you don't.
Electoral College, as defined in the Constitution, elects the President, and is nothing new.
The Supreme Court decided Bush v Gore.
I won't even address the rest of your rant.
Your bias and dearth of knowledge of history is on display.
Edited for spelling.[This message has been edited by olejoedad (edited 05-04-2022).]
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ray b
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MAY 04, 05:27 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 2.5:
Changing the subject will get you no where. |
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I did not change any subject
the topic was abortion and the political results of the courts pre-ruling leak
and as your bud oldjoe was not attacking the Gop as he never does that
with ''From the party of dirty tricks. ''
your charge of off topic is what is off topic ------------------ Question wonder and be wierd are you kind?
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