School shootings... what changed? (Page 21/33)
Hudini MAY 28, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

Because only the government has the wisdom to kill unarmed citizens?



I think all governments think that way. Unfortunately, that attitude travels downhill until the soldier at the bottom says, "I was only following orders".

Wounded Knee Massacre, (December 29, 1890), the slaughter of approximately 150–300 Lakota Indians by United States Army troops in the area of Wounded Knee Creek in southwestern South Dakota.

https://www.britannica.com/...ounded-Knee-Massacre


MidEngineManiac MAY 28, 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Jabber...jabber..jabber....




Here are a few little factoids for you.

https://pjmedia.com/news-an...ial-day-bbq-n1600774
williegoat MAY 28, 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:


Here are a few little factoids for you.

https://pjmedia.com/news-an...ial-day-bbq-n1 600774


I knew we kept you around for a reason.

I learned a new word: sitzpinkler
MidEngineManiac MAY 28, 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:


I learned a new word: sitzpinkler



English translation of that is "Pussy Whipped"
rinselberg MAY 29, 12:30 AM
"Statistical Eye for the 2A Guy"
Visual representations of various numerical metrics. Freely available for sightseers and spot readers.

"How U.S. gun culture [sic] stacks up with the [rest of] the world"

Kara Fox, Krystina Shveda, Natalie Croker and Marco Chacon for CNN; May 26, 2022.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11...-intl-cmd/index.html

How CNN reported this story:

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For gun ownership rates, CNN relied on the Small Arms Survey (SAS), a project of the Graduate Institute of International and Development Studies in Geneva, Switzerland. It estimates civilian arm stocks using a combination of gun sales and registration figures, public surveys, expert estimates and cross-country comparisons. The gun ownership rate per 100 people is not the same as the share of people that own guns, as some may own multiple guns and others may own none.

For firearm deaths totals and rates, CNN used the Global Burden of Disease database compiled by the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) at the University of Washington. Firearm-related deaths include physical violence (homicide), self-harm (suicide) and unintentional injuries. While rates are preferable for cross-country comparisons, in the case of suicides we illustrated the totals to highlight the gap between the US and other countries.

When comparing US statistics with other developed countries we used a UN definition found in the United Nations' World Economic Situation and Prospects report -- which intends "to reflect basic economic country conditions" and is not strictly aligned with the UN Statistics Division's classification known as M49.

To estimate numbers on mass shootings, including incidents, fatalities, and injuries in the US, CNN typically relies on data from the Gun Violence Archive. To enable international comparisons for this story, we also used data compiled by Jason R. Silva, an assistant professor of sociology and criminal justice at William Paterson University. Silva's definition is narrower than CNN and the GVA's because it excludes incidents involving profit-driven criminal activity, familicide and state-sponsored violence.

[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 05-29-2022).]

rinselberg MAY 29, 10:35 AM
Internet Page LInk Factoids

What the research says about gun laws
Andrew R. Morral for the Washington Post; May 27, 2022
https://www.washingtonpost....arch-social-science/

Andrew R. Morral is a senior behavioral scientist at the nonprofit, nonpartisan RAND Corporation and leader of its Gun Policy in America initiative.

Gun Policy in America
RAND Corporation
https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy.html

About the Gun Policy in America Initiative
RAND Corporation
https://www.rand.org/resear...un-policy/about.html
blackrams MAY 29, 12:19 PM
Having read Andrew R. Morral's profile, bio and briefly reviewed some of his work, I have no doubt he'll also hope the police come rescue him.....

Those unwilling to be prepared to defend themselves are also those who will be grateful when someone who is willing to step up saves their asses. (Assuming they survive.)

Rams

rinselberg MAY 29, 12:32 PM

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Originally posted by blackrams:

Having read Andrew R. Morral's profile, bio and briefly reviewed some of his work, I have no doubt he'll also hope the police come rescue him.....

Those unwilling to be prepared to defend themselves are also those who will be grateful when someone who is willing to step up saves their asses. (Assuming they survive.)


Do you see anything coming that would be a step backwards, in your estimation, in this immediate aftermath of the Uvalde atrocity?

In terms of changes in national or state level laws, or regulations, or enforcement policies and attitudes..?

Or maybe just in terms of the general public and its ideas and attitudes?
blackrams MAY 29, 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Do you see anything coming that would be a step backwards, in your estimation, in this immediate aftermath of the Uvalde atrocity?

In terms of changes in national or state level laws, or regulations, or enforcement policies and attitudes..?

Or maybe just in terms of the general public and its ideas and attitudes?



Rinselberg,
You're wasting your time asking me anything, I view those who you seem to admire as leaches who do nothing but suck the life out of this freedom loving nation.

Go ahead and be what you admire and hope someone comes to save you or your friends/relatives when the crap hits the fan.

Just remember this, you were warned. I'd rather go down fighting then in a fetal position begging for my life.

Rams
MidEngineManiac MAY 29, 04:59 PM
And then there are places where a mass-casualty event would be welcomed....but NOOOOOOO, damn responsible gun owner have too much self-control !

STFU KAREN !