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williegoat
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JAN 25, 04:02 PM
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Everything rayb knows about Wagner, he learned from Bugs Bunny.
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rinselberg
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JAN 25, 06:47 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
Please cite one [Mainstream Media] source that provides both sides of an issue, same article or in two articles.
You can't, can you?
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What an absurd remark here, from "olejoedad."
In just about 5 minutes, I turned up two very recent op-ed columns in the New York Times about the idea that Trump is not qualified to become President again because of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, and should therefore not be allowed to be listed on ballots as a candidate to become the next President.
"The Case for Disqualifying Trump Is Strong"
David French for the New York Times; January 4, 2024.
https://www.nytimes.com/202...trump-is-strong.html
"Only Voters Can Truly Disqualify Trump"
Noah Millman for the New York Times; January 21, 2024.
https://www.nytimes.com/202...n-3-sovereignty.html
One issue... and two very different and contrasting opinions about it in the New York Times.
I offer this as a quantum of evidence—not that difficult for me to have found—that olejoedad's remark about Mainstream Media never presenting "two sides" of an issue is substantially misleading and ill-considered.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-26-2024).]
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olejoedad
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JAN 25, 07:22 PM
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From a discredited left leaning subscription based newspaper that caters to their metrosexual subscription base. NYC is the heartland of the Democrats and LWNJ.
Try again, rinse.
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rinselberg
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JAN 25, 07:55 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
From a discredited left leaning subscription based newspaper that caters to their metrosexual subscription base. NYC is the heartland of the Democrats and LWNJ.
Try again, rinse. |
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If a "discredited, left-leaning, subscription-based newspaper that caters to their metrosexual subscription base" presents both sides of a prominent news story—like whether Trump should be on the ballot—what point do you have?
Are you saying that the New York Times isn't an example of Mainstream Media?
I could find more of the same "both sides presented" in the New York Times. I could find "both sides" in the Washington Post... the Los Angeles Times... possibly even The Atlantic, on certain issues.
These are typical of the news organizations that MSNBC relies on for much of the material that they present in their daily TV programming.
What do you mean when you say "MSM" or Mainstream Media?[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-25-2024).]
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BingB
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JAN 26, 11:52 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
From a discredited left leaning subscription based newspaper that caters to their metrosexual subscription base. NYC is the heartland of the Democrats and LWNJ.
Try again, rinse. |
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I don't understand.
You are actually arguing that the New York Times in NOT mainstream media?
What exactly is your definition of "mainstream media"?
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BingB
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JAN 26, 11:55 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
FOX may be right leaning, but there is truth in their reporting.
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Then why are they having to pay millions in damages for lying?
The only reason you call their reporting "truth" is because they tell you what you want to hear.
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williegoat
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JAN 26, 12:43 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
I don't understand.
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rinselberg
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JAN 26, 01:29 PM
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rinselberg
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JAN 26, 10:16 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
Please cite one [Mainstream Media] source that provides both sides of an issue, same article or in two articles.
You can't, can you? |
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What an absurd remark here, from "olejoedad."
In just about 5 minutes, I turned up two very recent op-eds in the New York Times about the idea that Trump is not qualified to become President again because of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, and should therefore not be allowed to be listed on ballots as a candidate to become the next President. One of the opinion columns boiled down to "Yes" and the other... "No."
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/...L/000994-5.html#p191
Now how about this, from the Washington Post?
"Here’s a dirty little secret about Trump’s tax cuts"
Catherine Rampell for the Washington Post; February 16, 2023.
https://www.washingtonpost....-tax-cuts-untouched/
Here's how Catherine Rampell begins:
| quote | | Here’s a dirty little secret about those expensive, unpopular Trump tax cuts: We’re probably stuck with them for good, because neither party seems to have the political courage to let them lapse. Not the Republicans who supposedly care about fiscal responsibility, and not the Democrats who are on record as hating them. |
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I offer this as a second quantum of evidence—not that difficult for me to have found—that olejoedad's remark about Mainstream Media never presenting "two sides" of an issue is substantially misleading and ill-considered.
What say you?
 [This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-26-2024).]
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rinselberg
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JAN 27, 01:32 AM
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Continuing in much the same vein, after visiting the New York Times and the Washington Post, I now direct your gaze to the Los Angeles Times: another nationally recognized pillar of the Mainstream Media that olejoedad is so dismissive of, that he actually disses it.
"Op-Ed: California needs to keep the Diablo Canyon nuclear plant open to meet its climate goals"
Steven Chu and Ernest Moniz for the Los Angeles Times; November 21, 2021.
https://www.latimes.com/opi...hange-zero-emissions
"Op-Ed: We don’t need Diablo Canyon’s nuclear power to prevent summer blackouts"
Ralph Cavanagh for the Los Angeles Times; August 18, 2022.
https://www.latimes.com/opi...-2025-newsom-mistake
We need Diablo Canyon... we don't need Diablo Canyon... it's like "Two Things at Once"
Celebrated NFL Kansas City Chiefs player Travis Kelce is featured in a "Two Things at Once" commercial from Pfizer, aimed at boosting uptake of their latest Covid-19 "booster" vaccine.
| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
Please cite one [Mainstream Media] source that provides both sides of an issue, same article or in two articles.
You can't, can you? |
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Say what?[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-27-2024).]
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