PETROLPHOBIA (Page 20/66)
USFiero JUL 22, 02:13 PM
Haven't posted in a while since it has been uneccesary... the subject has been on the front pages all over. Before we get happy about the 'sudden' decline in prices due to oil stabilizing inprice (it really hasn't) I thought I'd put this link to the latest commodities prices for reference. The gas stations I refer to in my local price post is high: $3.89 - low $3.84. That's down from the high being $3.99 (neither were apparently willing to go above $4). I'm glad I put in a garden this year, and less driving = less money going into the local economy. I'm still researching ways to lower my bills, I'm considering just having DSL at the house and not phone service since we all have cell phones and the only people who call the house are charity solicitors and bill collectors.
USFiero JUL 28, 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by USFiero 7/13 of last year:
in the last month and a half, gas has been as high as $3.01/gal for regular and low as $2.67 in that time period. Gas today was $2.87/gal.



so before we start planning our V8 swaps because of the reduction of gas prices, let's remember where we are still. Has anyone been able to alter their budgets and habits to accomodate this shift in the economy?

Prices near me vary from $3.71- $3.80 a gallon right now for regular.

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USFiero JUL 29, 10:32 AM
dropped another penny today. It would be cool if that continued, a penny a day... or even a nickel a week... heck, a dime a month would get our economy turned around!!
dennis_6 AUG 02, 03:34 AM
Remember we paid .89 a gallon back in 2000. Its been 8 years, Gas is nearly 4 times what it was in 8 years! Don't settle for $3.50 a gallon unless they make min wage 4 times higher and hold prices where they are.

Please, don't anyone bring up euorpe or canada. They tax the difference, its where thier "free" health care and other socialist programs get funding. Canada and Europe buy oil for the same price we do, jack up the price with taxes, and then dare to complain that we have it cheap. If we had free health care I would agree, but we don't.
maryjane AUG 02, 08:19 AM

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Originally posted by dennis_6:

Remember we paid .89 a gallon back in 2000. .



We did? What was it in 1985?

1952?

1966?

I insist we return to those price levels.
AusFiero AUG 02, 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by dennis_6:
Please, don't anyone bring up euorpe or canada. They tax the difference, its where thier "free" health care and other socialist programs get funding. Canada and Europe buy oil for the same price we do, jack up the price with taxes, and then dare to complain that we have it cheap. If we had free health care I would agree, but we don't.



Well I beg to differ on that at least for this country. We have a Medicare levee in our income taxes that pay for it.

This comparison shows what has been happening around the world. Canada is one of the few countries who have kept their fuel prices in check. England on the other hand is the one with the problems.

In the big scheme of things in the western world America has had it good for a long time and still has the cheapest fuel in the west. I know a sudden rise hits hard, we are having it happening here too, but unfortunately we all have to suck it up.

I have a horrible feeling the "GREEN" movement has a lot more to do with this than they like to admit. Why else would all the radical rises be in the "GREEN" west? It is surely one of the many price influences.



AusFiero AUG 03, 04:26 AM
Looking at the figures I am wondering why USA, England and Australia have jumped so much compared to Canada now. Are you Canadians hiding some oil fields we don't know about?
AntiKev AUG 03, 07:17 AM

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Originally posted by AusFiero:
Looking at the figures I am wondering why USA, England and Australia have jumped so much compared to Canada now. Are you Canadians hiding some oil fields we don't know about?



Yes, but it has a lot to do with the relationship between the Canadian and US$. I've seen gas under $1.20/litre here in the past few weeks. (Scary, when I first bought gas it was $0.59/litre.) The dollars are pretty well even +/- a few cents. Whereas before, the Canadian dollar was between 70 and 80 cents US. So we're feeling it, but not as bad.

Also, we export most of our oil to the US. And we have tons of oil to export, at these prices it's economical to get at too. Now that the capital expenditure is paid, it will continue to be economical to get at no matter the price/bbl.
dennis_6 AUG 03, 11:07 AM
Don't remember Australia, being in Canada or Europe. lol Sucking it up might have been possible, if Congress hadn't repeatedly voted down min. wage increases, national debt had not sky rocketed, and jobs were not allowed to leave the country by the thousands. With everything else that is going on in this country, we simply can not afford gas over 2 dollars a gallon.


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Originally posted by AusFiero:


Well I beg to differ on that at least for this country. We have a Medicare levee in our income taxes that pay for it.

This comparison shows what has been happening around the world. Canada is one of the few countries who have kept their fuel prices in check. England on the other hand is the one with the problems.

In the big scheme of things in the western world America has had it good for a long time and still has the cheapest fuel in the west. I know a sudden rise hits hard, we are having it happening here too, but unfortunately we all have to suck it up.

I have a horrible feeling the "GREEN" movement has a lot more to do with this than they like to admit. Why else would all the radical rises be in the "GREEN" west? It is surely one of the many price influences.





88 Dread GT AUG 03, 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by maryjane:


We did? What was it in 1985?

1952?

1966?

I insist we return to those price levels.



I remember paying .99/gal. when I first got my license in 1988. Super was $1.09 and I thought THAT was outragious!

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=-Eric the Dread

1988 Fiero GT 2.8L V6
2001 Grand Prix GTP SC3.8L V6