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olejoedad
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MAR 31, 02:38 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by theBDub:
Joe, ask yourself why our POTUS is “trolling” the American public. Why do you assume he’s kidding or “trolling” here, and why does that make it okay?
He’s talking about doing something that’s explicitly against the Constitution. Do you not care about the Constitution anymore? Why does he get a pass from you, but someone else wouldn’t get a pass? |
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He's not trolling the people that support him, he is trolling the media and those that are opposed to him.
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theBDub
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MAR 31, 03:41 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Ok, first of all... no matter how insanely radical you think I am, or anyone else here. You can be absolutely sure I would not vote for Donald Trump for a 3rd term because it would be ridiculous. I love what the guy is doing right now... but it's completely asinine to think that he would attempt to run for a third term, even if for some reason he thought he could get away with it.
And furthermore, as radical as you think the "conservative" judges are... they literally rule on the basis of language in the code of law and constitutionality. They would not authorize things merely because you think they liked him. This is the difference between an activist judge.
This once again, respectfully, shows that I think you exist in an echo-chamber. Even many radical Democrats are calling it out: https://www.nytimes.com/202...democrats-toxic.html
And sure, Newsom is positioning himself for the next presidential election... but the Democrats right now live in an echo-chamber. Otherwise... they would have likely won the election. But they're so focused on trans rights, and... I don't even know... nothing else? That they've missed all the real-world things... like skyrocketing crime, mass illegal immigration, failing schools, etc. |
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I don’t think he can or would actually run for a third term. As I said… it’s unconstitutional. But I think it’s generally dangerous for our POTUS to be discussing doing clearly unconstitutional things. It’s fine and even healthy to discuss policy ideas or start a discussion on if the constitution should be amended because of X, Y, or Z. It’s not appropriate to pretend like the 22nd amendment can just be ignored.
This is just one of many things he says that I put under his “bad leader” category. I don’t disagree with all of his platform in concept, but I greatly disagree with how he does it. Simple statements like this can slowly erode how the American public respects our constitution.
By the way, I’m just as against politicians making massive statements against gun rights, even while that offers more interpretation than this does. If folks want an amendment, go through the process. But you can’t ignore our constitution.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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MAR 31, 04:34 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by theBDub:
This is just one of many things he says that I put under his “bad leader” category. I don’t disagree with all of his platform in concept, but I greatly disagree with how he does it. Simple statements like this can slowly erode how the American public respects our constitution.
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This is the thing... you very much dislike Trump's brash attitude... the arrogance, and the way he just kind of waves off anyone he doesn't care about. This enrages many people. I don't personally know why, because if he did it to me, I wouldn't be bothered, and I'd just as likely do it to someone like Nancy Pelosi (if she even cared). But it's this same attitude that for all the reasons why you dislike him, that many people like him.
Many people feel like the political class have been ignoring real issues in the country and focusing on nonsense... so when he comes in and throws over the poker table and destroys the game, people love it.
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theBDub
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MAR 31, 07:41 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
This is the thing... you very much dislike Trump's brash attitude... the arrogance, and the way he just kind of waves off anyone he doesn't care about. This enrages many people. I don't personally know why, because if he did it to me, I wouldn't be bothered, and I'd just as likely do it to someone like Nancy Pelosi (if she even cared). But it's this same attitude that for all the reasons why you dislike him, that many people like him.
Many people feel like the political class have been ignoring real issues in the country and focusing on nonsense... so when he comes in and throws over the poker table and destroys the game, people love it. |
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Todd, respectfully… of course Trumpers like this. Your entire comment is extremely well known to virtually every one of us Trump haters. Not even sure I understand if you actually think I don’t know this or if you’re speaking to someone else by replying to me.
I wouldn’t be offended by him on a personal level. I am the lovable ******* of my neighborhood and company. I generally like unapologetic assholes. It’s that he’s a horrible, horrible, horrible leader for a country like ours. He’s already ruining international relations in a way that will take us many future presidencies to overcome and regain trust.
And I get it man… you disagree. But it’s just hilarious to me to imagine Biden or Obama saying 10% of anything Trump has said and watching your aneurisms happen, compared to your reaction to stuff like this.
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blackrams
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MAR 31, 08:35 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by theBDub:
I generally like unapologetic assholes. It’s that he’s a horrible, horrible, horrible leader for a country like ours. He’s already ruining international relations in a way that will take us many future presidencies to overcome and regain trust.
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While I recognize the above response was not directed to me, I must note that while DJT may not be the leader you respect, he is still a leader. His history of success is out there. That's not to suggest I agree with every single thing he does or says but, he's trying to correct a huge number of overwhelming bad judgements made by his predecessor and others. While the "World" may not agree with many of DJT's moves, he gets more respect from our allies, neighbors and potential enemies than his predecessor ever got. Other President's bought friends who didn't respect the US and put our National Debt to levels we may never climb out of.
I can't see a way I could support a third term for DJT but that doesn't mean there isn't a way to do it lawfully. I simply don't see a way even though I recently spent a night at a Holiday Inn Express.  The Constitution reigns supreme for all of us.[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 03-31-2025).]
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theBDub
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MAR 31, 09:51 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
While the "World" may not agree with many of DJT's moves, he gets more respect from our allies, neighbors and potential enemies than his predecessor ever got. |
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Based on the statements and actions of our allies and enemies, both… I totally disagree.
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blackrams
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MAR 31, 10:00 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by theBDub:
Based on the statements and actions of our allies and enemies, both… I totally disagree. |
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Understood, but, under Biden, they were laughing at us, those statements are coming from those who have benefitted from previous "Give Away" Presidents and they don't want things to change.
Edited: If, you're referring to the "Respect" previously bought and paid for, then I would agree.
I would agree they aren't MAGA fans. But, their free ride is over.
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 04-02-2025).]
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cliffw
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MAR 31, 10:11 PM
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randye
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APR 01, 04:19 AM
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It's hilarious to watch Leftoids suddenly become Constitutional originalists when someone yanks their chain.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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APR 01, 11:44 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by theBDub:
Todd, respectfully… of course Trumpers like this. Your entire comment is extremely well known to virtually every one of us Trump haters. Not even sure I understand if you actually think I don’t know this or if you’re speaking to someone else by replying to me.
I wouldn’t be offended by him on a personal level. I am the lovable ******* of my neighborhood and company. I generally like unapologetic assholes. It’s that he’s a horrible, horrible, horrible leader for a country like ours. He’s already ruining international relations in a way that will take us many future presidencies to overcome and regain trust.
And I get it man… you disagree. But it’s just hilarious to me to imagine Biden or Obama saying 10% of anything Trump has said and watching your aneurisms happen, compared to your reaction to stuff like this. |
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I really think you're living in an echo-chamber. I don't know how you can come away thinking Obama and Biden haven't not only said... but actually DONE things that were insanely inappropriate. Biden held a speech outside the White House with red lights, military guard, for no other reason than to declare that Trump was a threat to Democracy. Which... we all remember, you believed in entirely. You came on here totally frenetic, almost terrified if you will... and tried to convince the 5-6 of us that voting for Trump meant the end of the world as we know it. Biden literally raided Trump's home... a former sitting president, and the biggest contender against Biden's re-election campaign. I don't even know how you can begin to sit there and pretend like things have been normal in the slightest.
I also greatly disagree with your view on international relations. You may have "finally" come up in society, but I've been an international traveler and "of that society" my entire life. My classmates and friends growing up were Mike Schwab (is this where you work?), the prince of Jordan, Henry Hagar (married Jenna Bush), etc. This is a picture of my dad, you can probably pick him out since you know the three presidents there. You've stated repeatedly how you've just made VP at your company, and that somehow gives you insight into the rest of the world. Glad you've finally reached a level that many of us on Pennock's have already lived. I'm proud of you... but I get the impression you believe the rest of us on Pennock's live in trailers, or have no clue what's going on in the rest of the world.
News flash, Europe and other countries have always hated us, even when we help them. There is a general dislike of American "exceptionalism" and our attitude. Democrats have taken the position of literally paying off our adversaries and our allies so they play nice with us... which is a completely absurd attitude. We've literally built China, most of the middle East, and multiple countries in Asia with our economy. These countries didn't like us under Biden or Obama... they made FUN of us. Nothing has changed from then until now... they still hate us, but now they're pissed because we're calling them to the mat.
What we're doing right now is a very good and very necessary "rightening" of a global trade imbalance.[This message has been edited by 82-T/A [At Work] (edited 04-01-2025).]
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