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Raydar
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JAN 03, 10:37 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Sounds like someone is really trying hard to put a BS pro-Trump spin on this event. |
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"Livelsberger harbored no ill will toward President-elect Donald Trump, law enforcement officials said. In one of the notes he left, he said the country needed to 'rally around' Trump and Tesla CEO Elon Musk."
The soldier's own words were quoted.
So what part of that was a "BS pro-Trump spin"?[This message has been edited by Raydar (edited 01-03-2025).]
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Patrick
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JAN 03, 11:09 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Raydar:
The soldier's own words were quoted.
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Were they? Really, were they? 
| quote | Originally posted by Raydar:
So what part of that was a "BS pro-Trump spin"?
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Raydar... do you honestly believe that this highly decorated Green Beret, who went out of his way to rent a Tesla Cybertruck, and then drove more than 800 miles(!) to the front doors of a Trump hotel (before blowing the Tesla and himself up!), was showing support for Trump and Elon Musk? 
IMO, either the "notes" were fabricated and/or someone somewhere instructed those "law enforcement officials" to release that bogus statement.[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 01-04-2025).]
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blackrams
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JAN 04, 07:52 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
IMO, either the "notes" were fabricated and/or someone somewhere instructed those "law enforcement officials" to release that bogus statement.
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Everyone has an opinion. I'm reminded of Defense Attorney Cochran's closing argument that "If it doesn't fit, you must acquit." I had a hard time with that one. 
I understand such a statement doesn't and won't fit someone with TDS. But, according to everything I've read and heard on the news, the guy stated that in notes.
I don't pretend to understand that guy's motivation but, he did say that and there is evidence.
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Learning most of life's lessons the hard way. .
You are only young once but, you can be immature indefinitely.[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 01-04-2025).]
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MarkS
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JAN 04, 10:50 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Raydar... do you honestly believe that this highly decorated Green Beret, who went out of his way to rent a Tesla Cybertruck, and then drove more than 800 miles(!) to the front doors of a Trump hotel (before blowing the Tesla and himself up!), was showing support for Trump and Elon Musk?
IMO, either the "notes" were fabricated and/or someone somewhere instructed those "law enforcement officials" to release that bogus statement.
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Patrick, I know you want to believe that, but man, talk about a conspiracy theory, sheesh....
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Patrick
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JAN 04, 12:22 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by MarkS:
Patrick, I know you want to believe that, but man, talk about a conspiracy theory, sheesh....
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Mark, it's not a matter of "wanting" to believe what I posted... it's the only thing that makes any sense. If blowing oneself up was somehow a show of support for Trump and Musk, will we soon expect to see a decline in P&R membership?
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NewDustin
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JAN 04, 12:55 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Mark, it's not a matter of "wanting" to believe what I posted... it's the only thing that makes any sense. If blowing oneself up was somehow a show of support for Trump and Musk, will we soon expect to see a decline in P&R membership?
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Sounds like you are probably correct:
"This was not a terrorist attack, it was a wakeup call. Americans only pay attention to spectacles and violence. What better way to get my point across than a stunt with fireworks and explosives."
While that's the only excerpt that appears to be getting posted, that does not sound like an excerpt from a missive that ends "Thank goodness things worked out the way they did! Go Team Trump!"
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Patrick
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JAN 04, 05:26 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
...according to everything I've read and heard on the news, the guy stated that in notes. I don't pretend to understand that guy's motivation but, he did say that and there is evidence.
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Oh... so now you believe what's being reported in the news. Funny how that works.
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blackrams
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JAN 04, 06:51 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Oh... so now you believe what's being reported in the news. Funny how that works.
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Multiple sources all are reporting the same, conservative and woke networks so............................
The same with all the alphabet agencies involved.
Would seem you're the lone unaccepting dis-believer here.
Yeah I know, arguing is half the fun in P&R according to you. 
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 01-04-2025).]
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Raydar
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JAN 04, 08:45 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Raydar... do you honestly believe that this highly decorated Green Beret, who went out of his way to rent a Tesla Cybertruck, and then drove more than 800 miles(!) to the front doors of a Trump hotel (before blowing the Tesla and himself up!), was showing support for Trump and Elon Musk?
IMO, either the "notes" were fabricated and/or someone somewhere instructed those "law enforcement officials" to release that bogus statement.
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Nah. Sadly, vets (decorated or otherwise), suicide themselves on a regular basis. It's not too much of a stretch to think that this person also wanted to make a statement, instead of just "bowing out, quietly".
Explosions get peoples' attention. An exploding Cybertruck, even more so. The fact that it was in front of a Trump hotel is a real "trifecta". Don't you think?
Why do you have trouble believing the man's words?
You would seem to believe what the left wing media (who also seems to agree, in this case) has been reporting about "your enemies", for years.
What would be the motivation for anyone to fabricate such a story? It goes against the narrative (i.e., Trump sucks) that we have heard from the media for nearly a decade.
It obviously would be irritating to the "left leaning" persons who are listening. (Am I right?!)
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Patrick
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JAN 04, 09:01 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Raydar:
You would seem to believe what the left wing media (who also seems to agree, in this case) has been reporting about "your enemies", for years.
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Who exactly are my "enemies"?
| quote | Originally posted by Raydar:
What would be the motivation for anyone to fabricate such a story?
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Seriously, you can't think of why "anyone" might wish to twist the circumstances of this event?
| quote | Originally posted by Raydar:
It obviously would be irritating to the "left leaning" persons who are listening. (Am I right?!)
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One less Trump supporter is fine by me (if that's what he was)... but the only "irritating" part of this story to me is that it makes no sense.
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