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DEC 20, 05:01 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by NewDustin:
I agree that it is extremely likely, though I think it's different than what is happening in the US.
We're shifting towards populism and economic protectionism, much along the same lines as Argentina under Juan Peron (that's a really good read for anyone interested in Trump's political influence, btw). Trump didn't shift the country expressly left or right, he shifted it populist. I don't know if you know Charlie Leduff (he's a 10/10 journalist from Detroit), but he's been reporting on the phenomena that I think led to the populist revolution Trump tapped into. I think that's part of what makes Trump so successful: He really is playing 3D chess in that he's looking at a dimension party candidates/politicians are not.
Canada, on the other hand, seems to be swinging conservative. while there are elements of populism to him, from a policy perspective, Poilievre is nothing like Trump: He's anti-tax/tarriff, pro-free-trade, pro-market, isn't looking to swell/consolidate executive power, is openly against using police force against his opponents...he is an actual conservative, not rebranded centrist/populism like we embraced here.
It will be interesting to see how an actual conservative government looks from this side of the funhouse mirror.
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Did you really just compare Donald Trump to Juan and Eva Peron?
I can't take you seriously anymore. You're comparing socialist dictators that basically destroyed Argentina's economy (and then again with the Kirchners) with Donald Trump, the man who has the record for creating THE best economy in the United States that the country has ever seen in its entire 248+ history.
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cliffw
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DEC 20, 05:46 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by NewDustin:
We're shifting towards populism and economic protectionism, ...
It will be interesting to see how an actual conservative government looks from this side of the funhouse mirror.
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My. What does that mean ? Populism and economic protectionism ?
When did, why did we ever not care about populism and economic protectionism ?
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Patrick
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DEC 20, 06:00 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by NewDustin:
Canada, on the other hand, seems to be swinging conservative. While there are elements of populism to him, from a policy perspective, Poilievre is... anti-tax/tarriff, pro-free-trade, pro-market, isn't looking to swell/consolidate executive power, is openly against using police force against his opponents...he is an actual conservative, not rebranded centrist/populism like we embraced here.
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Ever hear Pierre Poilievre speak? He has this droning monotone that reminds me too much of Sheldon from (a show I can't stand)... The Big Bang Theory. I can't take him seriously.
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blackrams
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DEC 20, 07:02 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Ever hear Pierre Poilievre speak? He has this droning monotone that reminds me too much of Sheldon from (a show I can't stand)... The Big Bang Theory. I can't take him seriously. |
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A speaking style reminds you of an actor/show you can't stand and that makes him unqualified to serve? Hmm. that's very open minded of you. 
I would think his policies would be of greater interest and value. Admittedly, I don't know the man nor his policies.
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 12-20-2024).]
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Patrick
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DEC 20, 07:36 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
Hmm. that's very open minded of you.
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That should make me fit right in here.
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blackrams
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DEC 20, 10:00 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
That should make me fit right in here.
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Well, OK if you say so. With all the support I see you getting on topics such as this, that's got to be true.
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 12-20-2024).]
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Patrick
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DEC 20, 11:44 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
With all the support I see you getting on topics such as this...
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I don't require being propped up by the local echo chamber.[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 12-20-2024).]
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blackrams
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DEC 21, 09:50 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
I don't require being propped up by the local echo chamber.
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 Obviously.
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NewDustin
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DEC 21, 02:50 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Ever hear Pierre Poilievre speak? He has this droning monotone that reminds me too much of Sheldon from (a show I can't stand)... The Big Bang Theory. I can't take him seriously. |
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I dunno, a policy-focused, emotionally controlled leader sounds wonderful 
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NewDustin
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DEC 21, 02:51 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
I don't require being propped up by the local echo chamber.
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Make sure you meet the "I agree" quota, lest you get called out for being disagreeable
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