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BingB
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JAN 02, 04:21 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
Why do you suppose Trump was attacked by both sides, and the media?
Could it be that he was a political outsider that wasn't owned by the corporations that controlled the other politicians? He couldn't be controlled.
Nah....that couldn't be it!
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I agree that that could not be the reason. The main reason is that we saw what Trump did ni his four years as president and it had nothing to do with opposing corportaions.
-He bought off individuals with a TEMPORARY tax cut but gave a PERMANENET tax cut to corporations.
-He gave key political appointments to former Goldman Sachs employees Steven Mnuchin, Steven Bannon, and Gary Cohn,
-His Secretary of Commerce, Wilbur Ross, was a former CEO who had also served in Bill Clinton's administration.
-His Dep Secretary of Commerce, Karen Kelly was a senior executive at INvesco.
-His Secretary of Education, Betsy DeVos, had no training or background in education but since 1989 her family had contributed over $17 million dollars to Republican candidates and committees. She wrote an op-ed piece where she said "My family is the largest single contributor of soft money to the national Republican Party. I have decided to stop taking offense at the suggestion that we are buying influence," she wrote. "Now I simply concede the point. They are right. . . We expect a return on our investment"
-His Secretary of Energy, Dan Brouillette, was former CEO of Edison Electric
-His Dep. Secretary of Energy, Mark Menezes, was vice-president of Berkshire Hathawy Energy
-His Secretary of Health and Human Services, Alex Azar, was President of Eli Lily Pharmaceutical
-His Secretary of Homeland Security, Chad Wolfe, was a former lobbyist with Wexler&Walker who help private corporations get government contracts with the TSA.
-His Secretary of Interior, David Bernhardt was a cororapte lobbyist with the law firm Brownstein Hyatt Farber Schreck
-His administrator for the EPA, Andrew Wheeler, was a former corporate lobbyist with the law firm Faegre Baker Daniels
-His Assistant Administrator for Enforcement and Compliance Assurance at the EPA now works for the law and lobbying firm Earth & Water Law, which represents corporations in pollution cases.
- Bloomberg News called Jerome Powell, Trumps Chairman of the Fedral Reserve, "Wall Street's Head of State," as a reflection of how dominant Powell's actions were on asset prices and how profitable his actions were for Wall Street.
-His Vice-chairman of the Federal Reserve, Randal Quarles, was a former managing director of The Carlyle Group, one of the world's largest private equity firms.
-His Under Secretary of State for Economic Growth, Energy, and the Environment, Kewith Krach, was a former vice-President of General MOtors.
-His Chairman of the National Labor Relations Board, John Ring, was a corporate lawyer with Morgan, Lewis & Bockius who defended corporate interests in union environments and represented employers in unfair labor practice proceedings before the NLRB.
-A Member of his National Labor Relations Board, William Emanuel, spent most of his career as a pro-management labor law attorney based in California.[This message has been edited by BingB (edited 01-02-2024).]
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BingB
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JAN 02, 04:24 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
Do you suppose the venues used by other Presidents for events are given away, or perhaps they might also be rented to the Federal Government?
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No. Could you maybe give me an example?
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cliffw
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JAN 02, 06:50 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
Trump was President for four years and did not change anything. Instead he used the Presidency to make himself richer. He made a big deal about not taking his $400k salary, but he made a lot more through his businesses dealings with the US government while he was president. |
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Did not change anything,  ? You have said that you sometimes support republican points on this forum, and democrat points at other times. The above quote exposes your favorite agenda.
Did not change anything, ?
It is going with notice that you never introduce a topic for discussion.
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olejoedad
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JAN 02, 08:21 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
I agree that that could not be the reason. The main reason is that we saw what Trump did ni his four years as president and it had nothing to do with opposing corportaions.
-He bought off individuals with a TEMPORARY tax cut but gave a PERMANENET tax cut to corporations.
-He gave key political appointments to former Goldman Sachs employees Steven Mnuchin, Steven Bannon, and Gary Cohn,
-His Secretary of Commerce, Wilbur Ross, was a former CEO who had also served in Bill Clinton's administration.
-His Dep Secretary of Commerce, Karen Kelly was a senior executive at INvesco.
-His Secretary of Education, Betsy DeVos, had no training or background in education but since 1989 her family had contributed over $17 million dollars to Republican candidates and committees. She wrote an op-ed piece where she said "My family is the largest single contributor of soft money to the national Republican Party. I have decided to stop taking offense at the suggestion that we are buying influence," she wrote. "Now I simply concede the point. They are right. . . We expect a return on our investment"
-His Secretary of Energy, Dan Brouillette, was former CEO of Edison Electric
-His Dep. Secretary of Energy, Mark Menezes, was vice-president of Berkshire Hathawy Energy
-His Secretary of Health and Human Services, Alex Azar, was President of Eli Lily Pharmaceutical
-His Secretary of Homeland Security, Chad Wolfe, was a former lobbyist with Wexler&Walker who help private corporations get government contracts with the TSA.
-His Secretary of Interior, David Bernhardt was a cororapte lobbyist with the law firm Brownstein Hyatt Farber Schreck
-His administrator for the EPA, Andrew Wheeler, was a former corporate lobbyist with the law firm Faegre Baker Daniels
-His Assistant Administrator for Enforcement and Compliance Assurance at the EPA now works for the law and lobbying firm Earth & Water Law, which represents corporations in pollution cases.
- Bloomberg News called Jerome Powell, Trumps Chairman of the Fedral Reserve, "Wall Street's Head of State," as a reflection of how dominant Powell's actions were on asset prices and how profitable his actions were for Wall Street.
-His Vice-chairman of the Federal Reserve, Randal Quarles, was a former managing director of The Carlyle Group, one of the world's largest private equity firms.
-His Under Secretary of State for Economic Growth, Energy, and the Environment, Kewith Krach, was a former vice-President of General MOtors.
-His Chairman of the National Labor Relations Board, John Ring, was a corporate lawyer with Morgan, Lewis & Bockius who defended corporate interests in union environments and represented employers in unfair labor practice proceedings before the NLRB.
-A Member of his National Labor Relations Board, William Emanuel, spent most of his career as a pro-management labor law attorney based in California.
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Corporate tax rates were causing companies to relocate to countries with lower tax rates, the cuts brought many of them back.
For the most part,.all of his appointees had a great deal of experience in, or were experts in the areas that they were administering or advising in.
DeVoss, a member of a prominent Michigan family donate a lot of money to charity, and were proponents of the Charter school program in Michigan. The teachers union has nearly destroyed the public schools in this state, the charter schools are a very bright spot in our education landscape.
During the Trump Administration, before the economy was trashed by the COVID scare, income into the Treasury was at an all time high.
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BingB
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JAN 02, 09:00 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
Did not change anything, ? You have said that you sometimes support republican points on this forum, and democrat points at other times. The above quote exposes your favorite agenda.
Did not change anything, ?
It is going with notice that you never introduce a topic for discussion. |
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Oh I 100% agree that Trump changed a lot of policies, but I was just specifically talking about steps to reduce the influence of corporations or big business in our government. I was responding to the claim that businesses and corporations are opposed to or afraid of Donald. Pretty much all his economic policies were pro business.
--He placed tariffs on foreign goods that helped US corporations but were paid by US citizens.
--He gave individual citizens a temporary tax break, but gave corporations a permanent tax break.
--He rolled back fuel efficiency targets for automakers.
--He enlisted a group of chemical industry insiders to develop EPA policy and they trashed a bipartisan deal to more strictly regulate toxic chemicals that Americans are exposed to.
--After getting busted for running the fraudulent Trump University, he changed the rules that allowed student to get educational loans forgiven if they were defrauded by a school.
--Raised the threshold for overtime payments to salaried employees.
--Reduced or eliminated multiple regulations on the oil and gas industry.
--He removed regulations placed on lenders after the '08 crisis.
--Reduced environmental regulations for approval of infrastructure projects
I don't mean to start a debate about which of these moves are good or bad. I am just pointing out that big business/corporations love Trump and he loves them back.
Can you mane any of his policies that were anti-big business?
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BingB
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JAN 02, 09:09 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
Corporate tax rates were causing companies to relocate to countries with lower tax rates, the cuts brought many of them back.
For the most part,.all of his appointees had a great deal of experience in, or were experts in the areas that they were administering or advising in.
DeVoss, a member of a prominent Michigan family donate a lot of money to charity, and were proponents of the Charter school program in Michigan. The teachers union has nearly destroyed the public schools in this state, the charter schools are a very bright spot in our education landscape.
During the Trump Administration, before the economy was trashed by the COVID scare, income into the Treasury was at an all time high.
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I did not mean to start a debate about which moves or appointments were proper. I was just pointing out that he was supporting the swamp instead of draining it.
Big business does not have to worry about controlling him because he already supports them 100%.
He was so concerned about the effect of Covid on the economy and corporate profits that he lied to the American people about how serious the threat was. It is on tape. He admits it himself.
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olejoedad
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JAN 02, 09:29 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
Oh I 100% agree that Trump changed a lot of policies, but I was just specifically talking about steps to reduce the influence of corporations or big business in our government. I was responding to the claim that businesses and corporations are opposed to or afraid of Donald. Pretty much all his economic policies were pro business.
--He placed tariffs on foreign goods that helped US corporations but were paid by US citizens.
--He gave individual citizens a temporary tax break, but gave corporations a permanent tax break.
--He rolled back fuel efficiency targets for automakers.
--He enlisted a group of chemical industry insiders to develop EPA policy and they trashed a bipartisan deal to more strictly regulate toxic chemicals that Americans are exposed to.
--After getting busted for running the fraudulent Trump University, he changed the rules that allowed student to get educational loans forgiven if they were defrauded by a school.
--Raised the threshold for overtime payments to salaried employees.
--Reduced or eliminated multiple regulations on the oil and gas industry.
--He removed regulations placed on lenders after the '08 crisis.
--Reduced environmental regulations for approval of infrastructure projects
I don't mean to start a debate about which of these moves are good or bad. I am just pointing out that big business/corporations love Trump and he loves them back.
Can you mane any of his policies that were anti-big business?
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Why would it make sense to implement anti corporate policies? It hurts the economy.
It would make more sense to crack down on corporate lobbyists influence on the political system.
It's been said that we don't have revenue problem, we have a spending problem.
We also have a debt problem, and a problem with portions of the budget that are 'fixed' - i.e., we've got to finance the programs.
One way to do that would be to increase revenue - more money to spend on paying down the debt.
Low interest rates keep the interest on new US Securities that are sold low. Good cash flow into the Treasury usually results in low interest rates - again, good for long term securities repayment.
The fuel mileage standards put in place we're going to increase costs to the auto manufacturers, with no real impact on the environment, but real impact on the price of new cars, bad for the consumer, bad for the automakers.
I told you before that I have first hand experience with EPA ,- their proposed regulations needed pulled back, they were not based on good science and would have had no tangible impact on the populace or the environment, and the TPP would have been a disaster for the US economy.
Trumps name was on the university, do you really think he had a day to day hand in running it? 🙄
Once he found out how it was being mismanaged he made corrections, its what good businessmen do.
Do you really think Trump U was a big cashflow stream into his core business of real estate?
I don't have time now to go into the rest, but consider this. Politics is carrot and stick, he gave corporations a boost, but also fired a warning shot across the bow.
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ray b
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JAN 03, 01:22 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
Why would it make sense to implement anti corporate policies? It hurts the economy.
It would make more sense to crack down on corporate lobbyists influence on the political system.
It's been said that we don't have revenue problem, we have a spending problem.
We also have a debt problem, and a problem with portions of the budget that are 'fixed' - i.e., we've got to finance the programs.
One way to do that would be to increase revenue - more money to spend on paying down the debt.
Low interest rates keep the interest on new US Securities that are sold low. Good cash flow into the Treasury usually results in low interest rates - again, good for long term securities repayment.
The fuel mileage standards put in place we're going to increase costs to the auto manufacturers, with no real impact on the environment, but real impact on the price of new cars, bad for the consumer, bad for the automakers.
I told you before that I have first hand experience with EPA ,- their proposed regulations needed pulled back, they were not based on good science and would have had no tangible impact on the populace or the environment, and the TPP would have been a disaster for the US economy.
Trumps name was on the university, do you really think he had a day to day hand in running it? 🙄
Once he found out how it was being mismanaged he made corrections, its what good businessmen do.
Do you really think Trump U was a big cashflow stream into his core business of real estate?
I don't have time now to go into the rest, but consider this. Politics is carrot and stick, he gave corporations a boost, but also fired a warning shot across the bow.
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can You put some fruit on those WAFFLES
IT IS A CULT
HAS ALL THE SIGNS
CULTISTS ARE SO SURE HE IS THE ONE
SO CAN DO NO WRONG
when facts are offered the spinning starts
gut the EPA ?
THAT IS A GAIN FOR WHO AND WHY
CORP-RATS LOVE THE RWNJ
DOGMAS ain't just for the religious
1% likes some of the tax dogmas
rump never will tax the rich
or balance any budgets
but will loot and steal for the rump corp
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ray b
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JAN 03, 01:35 PM
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The Trump administration was ruining the pre-COVID-19 economy too, just more slowly
Key takeaways:
Long before the COVID-19 pandemic the Trump administration was squandering the pockets of strength in the American economy it had inherited.
Broad-based prosperity requires strength on the supply, demand, and distributive sides of the economy, and Trump administration policies were either weak or outright damaging on these fronts.
Demand: Most of the Trump tax cuts went to already-rich corporations and households, who tend to save rather than spend most of any extra dollar they’re given.
Supply: Business investment plummeted under the Trump administration, despite their lavishing tax cuts on corporate business.
Distribution: The Trump administration undercut labor standards and rules that can buttress workers’ bargaining
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williegoat
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JAN 03, 01:52 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
The Trump administration was ruining the pre-COVID-19 economy too, just more slowly
Key takeaways:
Long before the COVID-19 pandemic the Trump administration was squandering the pockets of strength in the American economy it had inherited.
Broad-based prosperity requires strength on the supply, demand, and distributive sides of the economy, and Trump administration policies were either weak or outright damaging on these fronts.
Demand: Most of the Trump tax cuts went to already-rich corporations and households, who tend to save rather than spend most of any extra dollar they’re given.
Supply: Business investment plummeted under the Trump administration, despite their lavishing tax cuts on corporate business.
Distribution: The Trump administration undercut labor standards and rules that can buttress workers’ bargaining |
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Have you ever posted a complete sentence that wasn't plagiarized?
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