Difference between "Judaism" and "Zionism". (Page 2/15)
ray b OCT 09, 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by randye:

Be wary of any bigot poster here that labels anyone who disagrees with his anti-Israel politics as a "Zionist".

He is full of crap and trying to deceive you.

Attempting to separate Judaism from the state of Israel is Leftist nonsense and bigotry.

2023 Israeli census shows that 73.5% of the population is JEWISH




The U.S. government estimates the total Palestinian population at 3 million in the West Bank and 2 million in the Gaza Strip (midyear 2022). According to the U.S. government and other sources, Palestinian residents of these territories are predominantly Sunni Muslims, with small Shia and Ahmadi Muslim communities.

so 5 million in occupied areas and maybe that many more in exile

so randye's number is a LIE AN OFFICIAL LIE
The State of Israel had a population of approximately 9.73 million inhabitants as of March 2023. Some 73.5% were Jews of all backgrounds (about 7.145 million individuals),[3] 21% were Arab of any religion other than Jewish (about 2.048
AS WHEN ONE ADDS THE 3 MILLION IN THE WEST BANK PLUS GAZA'S 2 MILLION WE GET 50/50 ARAB VS JEWS
THE TRUE NUMBER FROM THE WHOLE AREA AT WAR
ray b OCT 09, 09:59 AM

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Originally posted by otakudude:


Yeah, and we saw how well that worked out for the Jewish people when they didn't have any nation willing to protect them or even support their right to exist.






So I guess that means that the arab Concentration Camp is firing back this time ?
Doug85GT OCT 09, 11:00 AM
Whines about semantics in a thread. Starts a new thread about semantics.

rinselberg OCT 09, 11:16 AM
That's correct. The difference(s) between "Judaism" and "Zionism" is a difference of semantics.

"Semantics" is concerned with the meaning of words and sentences.

It's popular for people to dismiss what they perceive as trivial distinctions or splitting hairs during an argument as a matter of "semantics,", but what people should really say is it's just a matter of "syntax," or a matter of "grammar."

Semantics is important. When it comes to spoken and written language, semantics isn't everything: it's the only thing.

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Jake_Dragon OCT 09, 11:55 AM
Jew, Cristian, Hindu, Catholic.... Does it matter.

How about Muslim Animals hiding behind a book, how would you feel if it was your daughter taken from a music festival, parade around and video shown of how these "hostages" are being treated.
I saw a video of a woman being forced into a truck, she had soiled herself. Armed men, they were not engaging other armed men, this was a woman that had no protected but to **** herself.
Another picture shows a stripped body that turned out to be one of the girls from the festival, they paraded around with this person in the back of a truck.

I don't care what you label these animals, I hope they glass them and make sure they know exactly what to expect each and every time.
fredtoast OCT 09, 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by Doug85GT:

Whines about semantics in a thread. Starts a new thread about semantics.



I point out when people make a big deal about different words that actually mean the same thing. For example, when discussing the ability to regulate something, a lot of people will start talking about the difference between "rights" and "privileges", but that does not make any difference. Both can be regulated. That is what I call an issue of "semantics" It doesn't matter which term you use.

But "Zionism" and "Judaism" have different meanings. So that is NOT an issue with "semantics". I can criticize the political actions taken in the name of Zionism without criticizing the Jewish religion or people.

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82-T/A [At Work] OCT 09, 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by fredtoast:

I point out when people make a big deal about different words that actually mean the same thing. For example, when discussing the ability to regulate something, a lot of people will start talking about the difference between "rights" and "privileges", but that does not make any difference. Both can be regulated. That is what I call an issue of "semantics" It doesn't matter which term you use.

But "Zionism" and "Judaism" have different meanings. So that is NOT an issue with "semantics". I can criticize the political actions taken in the name of Zionism without criticizing the Jewish religion or people.




Fred, when people are clearly on the "wrong side" of history, they attempt to wordsmith semantics to explain away how what they're supporting isn't really what we actually see them supporting. Having actually gone to war, I don't like it. I spent 6 months of my life doing whatever I could to protect innocent Afghans and help them elect a new president. It's not Islam, it's not Judaism, it's Iran... and Iran funds the Taliban in Afghanistan, and Hamas in the Gaza Strip. That's all this is... it's not about peaceful coexistence, it's about a fundamentalist desire to destroy the Jews from a radical religious leader known as the Ayatollah Cockamamie.
ray b OCT 09, 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Fred, when people are clearly on the "wrong side" of history, they attempt to wordsmith semantics to explain away how what they're supporting isn't really what we actually see them supporting. Having actually gone to war, I don't like it. I spent 6 months of my life doing whatever I could to protect innocent Afghans and help them elect a new president. It's not Islam, it's not Judaism, it's Iran... and Iran funds the Taliban in Afghanistan, and Hamas in the Gaza Strip. That's all this is... it's not about peaceful coexistence, it's about a fundamentalist desire to destroy the Jews from a radical religious leader known as the Ayatollah Cockamamie.



yes and saddly we fund with our taxes the jews BILLIONS EVERY YEAR
the jews run the whole scam poorly with fundamentalist desire to exclude others

BOTH SIDES ARE RELIGIOUS NUTS
BOTH SIDES DO EVIL
BOTH SIDES COMMIT WAR CRIMES
NETHER SIDE WANTS TO END THE WORLD
BUT SOME CHRISTIANS DO WANT THAT VERY THING END ALL LIFE HERE
AS PART OF THE END TIMES
THAT REQUIRES A REBUILT TEMPLE
SO A VICTORIOUS ISRAEL IS NEEDED
TO END THE WORLD FOR THEIR GODS RETURN

don't blame me
I just read their buybull
I did not write it
82-T/A [At Work] OCT 09, 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:

the jews run the whole scam




Jake_Dragon OCT 09, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:


yes and saddly we fund with our taxes the jews BILLIONS EVERY YEAR
the jews run the whole scam poorly with fundamentalist desire to exclude others

BOTH SIDES ARE RELIGIOUS NUTS
BOTH SIDES DO EVIL
BOTH SIDES COMMIT WAR CRIMES
NETHER SIDE WANTS TO END THE WORLD
BUT SOME CHRISTIANS DO WANT THAT VERY THING END ALL LIFE HERE
AS PART OF THE END TIMES
THAT REQUIRES A REBUILT TEMPLE
SO A VICTORIOUS ISRAEL IS NEEDED
TO END THE WORLD FOR THEIR GODS RETURN

don't blame me
I just read their buybull
I did not write it