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williegoat
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AUG 13, 02:55 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
I was aware of the Utah incident. I just didn't make the connection when you hinted at it, in relation to what happened in Canada, where "Dudley Do-Right" came to the front door to confront "dapperly dressed man" about the online postings about Prime Minister Trudeau.
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Fair enough.
The guy in Utah was wrong, but he was not dead wrong.
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williegoat
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AUG 13, 02:57 PM
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Why do you suppose it is that we have never heard any more about the guy in Vegas or the girl in Tennessee?
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rinselberg
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AUG 13, 03:11 PM
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I don't think I heard anything about "the guy in Vegas" or "the girl in Tennesse."
Not that I remember.
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williegoat
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AUG 13, 03:56 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
I don't think I heard anything about "the guy in Vegas" or "the girl in Tennesse."
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Sure you did. I am talking about the guy in Vegas who shot all of those people at the C&W show, and the girl in Nashville who killed all of those school children.
When the government stops talking, I stop trusting. What did they say that is too dangerous for us to hear? What did they know that we should know?
The guy in Utah was practically an invalid. What harm would have come from his live capture? No, I don't have a theory, but the guys who killed him do.
Why don't we know who leaked the Dobbs decision? Why don't we know who left the cocaine in the west wing? It goes on and on.
Why does the government not trust us with the truth?
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rinselberg
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AUG 13, 04:26 PM
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It's Trump's fault. He sucks all the oxygen out of the roughly 4 million square mile "room" that is the United States.
Journo's minds are completely filled with him, and so they can't think of anything else, and so they are not digging into these other stories, to pry and prod the truth from government officials or from the others who have "access."[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 08-13-2023).]
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williegoat
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AUG 13, 05:16 PM
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There are three aces showing around the table. Nobody has seen the last hole card, and Ol'Joe has already bet the pot.
Here comes the last round...read 'em and weep, boys...
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Wichita
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AUG 13, 05:54 PM
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Trudeau has already rebounded from his separation.
 [This message has been edited by Wichita (edited 08-13-2023).]
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MidEngineManiac
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AUG 13, 06:50 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
I was aware of the Utah incident. I just didn't make the connection when you hinted at it, in relation to what happened in Canada, where "Dudley Do-Right" came to the front door to confront "dapperly dressed man" about the online postings about Prime Minister Trudeau.
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No, No, No....
"Dudley Do-Right" was in the 60's and 70's.
In the Trudeau era we call the garbage "Dudley Dipshit"
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williegoat
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AUG 13, 06:57 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:
No, No, No....
"Dudley Do-Right" was in the 60's and 70's.
In the Trudeau era we call the garbage "Dudley Dipshit" |
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82-T/A [At Work]
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AUG 14, 07:23 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
I suggest scrolling through this report from the Salt Lake Tribune to examine whether the idea of sending the late Craig Deleeuw Robertson a warning letter would have been more appropriate than having the FBI directly confront him about the material that he had posted online.
But I think even the more summary report that MidEngineManiac posted (from NPR) provides reason enough to justify the FBI seeking a "face to face" with the man.
I've never heard of "just a warning letter" in what I've read in news reports about these cases. That strikes me as insufficient.
"Man accused of threatening Biden shot and killed in FBI raid in Utah" Franco OrdoƱez for the Salt Lake Tribune; August 9, 2023. https://www.npr.org/2023/08...g-utah-biden-threats
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I don't deny that there's all kinds of protocols that were made up 20-30+ years ago, all before social media really became a thing. Like, in the past, you wouldn't make a phone call because that would give the person "fair warning," that the police were coming and then they could get reinforcements, blah blah... everything would be treated like an assault. But we live in modern times... why can't they simply have made a phone call to him and expressly stated to him what his rights were, and where he's violating the law ... and, if he violates them further, he will be arrested. Why does FBI need to come to his door and shoot him?
Just so you know... FBI agents are not well trained. The movies glorify them as super police officers... but they are not. Most of them have absolutely no experience whatsoever in law enforcement before they start, and because of what they do, they don't have exposure to real situations like police officers do. This is why the FBI often wants to get people (below 35) who were already police officers (beat cops), or combat veterans. Real police officers deal with things day to day, and are better equipped to deal with local individuals or the local culture. Furthermore, that's another thing... like others in the US Government that take jobs with agencies... they do not come from the places they are representing. For example... if you go to the FBI, you will likely spend some time at Quantico getting trained for a couple of months, and then immediately be assigned to an office *wherever*. You might be born in San Francisco, and they send you off to the Salt Lake City field office. So you view everything from the same lens... and have no concept of how things are in one city, versus how they are done in another.
I can assure you that, while excused... this is why that guy got shot. Had they allowed the local Sheriff's office to take the lead, it would have probably been handled much differently. The local police would have either knocked on the door, or if they considered it a threat, they would have used the bull horn and asked him to exit his home.
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