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ray b
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AUG 09, 04:12 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Is this just hearsay, or are you repeating fact? The CIA has nothing to do with what goes on domestically. They're not an investigation / law enforcement agency, it's an unarmed civilian spy agency that specifically deals with foreign intelligence and works with the special operations branch of the U.S. military. If the CIA had been involved in spying on a US person, this should be a really big deal, because it means constitutional rights and authorities were violated. |
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wow
he claims to be a lawdog
but does not know nixon's total screwup on the radicals in the late 60 early 70's
like the chicago 7 or the weather people and the spying and other gov tricks ?
why all the cases were dismissed because of all the ways nixons boys blew it
damm right it was a big deal
kind of lost in water gate but very real
get out of that echo chamber
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ray b
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AUG 09, 04:18 PM
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the core nut-con crimes by nixon and he has no idea it happened at all
it never was JUST WATER GATE and the covering up
it was the whole program by the conned
sad
very sad
just the start of my hating the nut-conned for their real actions
some have lots of learning to do of real history they were lied about
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fredtoast
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AUG 09, 05:36 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Is this just hearsay, or are you repeating fact? The CIA has nothing to do with what goes on domestically. They're not an investigation / law enforcement agency, it's an unarmed civilian spy agency that specifically deals with foreign intelligence and works with the special operations branch of the U.S. military. If the CIA had been involved in spying on a US person, this should be a really big deal, because it means constitutional rights and authorities were violated. |
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Stanley Karnow made these claims in this 1983 book "Vietnam; A History". Don't know if they are substantiated by any official records.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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AUG 09, 08:15 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
wow
he claims to be a lawdog
but does not know nixon's total screwup on the radicals in the late 60 early 70's
like the chicago 7 or the weather people and the spying and other gov tricks ?
why all the cases were dismissed because of all the ways nixons boys blew it
damm right it was a big deal
kind of lost in water gate but very real
get out of that echo chamber |
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Ray, are you talking about me? I don't even know who this guy is... I was just concerned about the CIA comment there. The CIA has... issues, we'll say... but they have nothing to do with domestic policy or domestic agenda. That is entirely on the side of the FBI... that's what I'm saying.
| quote | Originally posted by fredtoast:
Stanley Karnow made these claims in this 1983 book "Vietnam; A History". Don't know if they are substantiated by any official records.
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There's a "romanticism" about glorifying what the CIA does... but the CIA has a very clear and defined role, and it does not include anything domestically. It's an immediate disqualification for me on anything when someone says the CIA did so and so in the United States. People tend to point to the CIA for everything, but it's just not what they do. They're neither equipped or even have the qualifications for it. It's a bunch of suits that do not carry weapons, and have no law enforcement authority whatsoever. They can't try to show their IC badge to an officer when they get pulled over... that's a quick ticket to the county jail.
If someone says the CIA did "x" in the United States, it's immediately worthless conspiracy... outside of anything that deals with spying internationally (working with Air Force on new spy planes, etc.).
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fredtoast
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AUG 09, 08:26 PM
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ray b
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AUG 09, 10:00 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
There's a "romanticism" about glorifying what the CIA does... but the CIA has a very clear and defined role, and it does not include anything domestically. It's an immediate disqualification for me on anything when someone says the CIA did so and so in the United States. People tend to point to the CIA for everything, but it's just not what they do. They're neither equipped or even have the qualifications for it. It's a bunch of suits that do not carry weapons, and have no law enforcement authority whatsoever. They can't try to show their IC badge to an officer when they get pulled over... that's a quick ticket to the county jail.
If someone says the CIA did "x" in the United States, it's immediately worthless conspiracy... outside of anything that deals with spying internationally (working with Air Force on new spy planes, etc.). |
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YES
well when matters a lot
CIA ran anti castro agents in miami
armed them for the bay of pigs [want to buy an assault rife only drop once in soft sand never fired]
or in most of SE Asia a bit later OUTSIDE V N THOSE GUNS WERE USED
then nixon had the water gate crew cuban ex pigs CIA GUYS
THAT SO CALLED ''immediately worthless conspiracy'' RAN OUT TRICKY DICKY
LATER THE CIA RAN COKE FOR RAYGUNS IRAN -CONTRA USING MIAMI CUBANS BAY OF PIGS VETS
HELPED CON-TROLL TOO MANY DICTATORS ect
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