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| Putin losing his 'gas war' against Europe. Yale prof on Russia's hard-hit economy. (Page 2/4) |
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Patrick
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FEB 21, 02:07 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
In my (hoped for) solution, Russia declares that it does not oppose a post-war Ukraine's prompt and full membership in the EU and NATO.
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I don't believe that Russia would ever "not oppose" Ukraine's membership in NATO... and after what the Russians have done to the Ukrainians, I don't believe Ukraine would agree to give up any territory to them. But I'm no "statesman", and I have no real idea what backroom deals may be required to end this senseless bloodshed and destruction.
The only viable solution I can foresee is that Putin is somehow deposed... and then Russia can blame everything on him... and then everyone kisses and makes up.
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BHall71
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FEB 21, 09:18 PM
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It would be nice if Putin would take out Biden and Harris so McCarthy could take over and the U.S. have a chance at anything again. [And, YES, I did just say that out loud!]
Brian
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rinselberg
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FEB 21, 09:44 PM
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He could take them out to Biologie, at 30/2 Lenin Street, Ilyinskoe Village. It's been open for about a year and has one Michelin Star.
 [This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 02-21-2023).]
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williegoat
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FEB 21, 09:54 PM
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Gorbie would have taken them to Pizza Hut.
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cvxjet
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FEB 21, 10:09 PM
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Vlady has been working for 20 years to destroy the West and re-assemble the USSR....but it took too long and now Vlady possibly has something physically wrong with him (We all can see he is a psychopath)...He is "On the Way" so he is trying to rush the destruction of the West and his plans are not working well.
He will probably launch nuclear weapons at some point to "Prove he is a man"....Hopefully someone will slit his throat before.....
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Patrick
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FEB 21, 10:16 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by BHall71:
It would be nice if Putin would take out Biden and Harris...
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Why stop there? How about nuking Mar-a-Lago?
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Valkrie9
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FEB 22, 02:46 AM
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Noo_klee_arr at_tak. Google Translate: ' ядерная атака на филадельфию ' ' yadernaya ataka na filadel'fiyu ' : Biden_Joe ? ' fjb in his right ear. ' ' Yeah, fjb on sight ! ' What ? You will wait until after the nuking of a large American city, then, belatedly hustle the pretendadent from the White House, into an idling van. ' You know he's a corrupt imbecile, right ? '
 ffs, somebody, do something. ' You think I'm joking, I like licking ice cream. Not a joke.'
 ' He's so pathetic ' ' Yeah, diddler, groper. ' fjb in the other ear. Ashley's shampooed hair.
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cliffw
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FEB 22, 08:59 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg: That means despite the Russian leader's efforts to make Europe freeze by cutting its gas supply, EU economies will survive the coldest months without serious harm — and they look set to start next winter in a strong position to do the same.
A few months ago, there were fears of energy shortages this winter caused by disruptions to Russian pipeline supplies.
But a combination of mild weather, increased imports of liquefied natural gas, and a big drop in gas consumption mean that more than 50 billion cubic meters (bcm) of gas is projected to remain in storage by the end of March ...
It would probably be an exaggeration, were I to say that Putin and his cronies see "Dark Brandon" in their troubled nighttime dreams, but I like what I'm posting here.
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You forgot to mention the savings in natural gas supplies due to gas stoves, gas water heaters, and gas home heating being outlawed.
| quote | Originally posted by Jake_Dragon: Perhaps ... bring better paying jobs back to the states.
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Have you noticed ? Every time he says he is going to, or his agenda is going to bring high paying jobs to Americans, he prefaces with "Union" jobs.
| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
What's a good ending for the war? Here's my thinking.
The U.S., NATO and Ukraine formally agree to accept Russia's right to have Sevastopol on the Crimean Peninsula as a military and particularly, a naval base. The entire Crimean Peninsula belongs to Russia. Russia has sovereignty over the (badly damaged, if not mostly destroyed) city of Mariupol and a continuous land corridor connecting Russia to the Crimean Peninsula through Mariupol. Russia has sovereignty over all of the coastline surrounding the Sea of Azov, including what has been a long stretch of Ukrainian coastline. All of this comprises the land corridor connecting Russia with the Crimean Peninsula.
That's quite a lot for Zelenskyy to have to "swallow". But in return, Ukraine, having ceded all of this territory, is guaranteed full membership in NATO and the European Union.
Maybe Ukraine could agree that all of the real estate for the Russian naval facilities at/near Sevastopol on the Crimean Peninsula will be leased by Ukraine to Russia for the very nominal fee of $1 USD per year for the next 100 99 years.
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The entire Crimean Peninsula belongs to Russia , ? Why ? Because they took it with aggression ?
Now you want to give them more because of their aggression ? Neither US nor NATO has any kind of authority to cede land in Ukraine to Russia. Throughout time, Russia has aggressively taken territory with force from weaker nations.
If you would pay attention to history, you would realize Ukraine gave up it's nuclear weapons in exchange for perpetual peace with Russia. Russia can not oppose who is accepted into NATO ! People are free do join whom ever they want to. It is enschrined in the US Constitution because it is a God given right.[This message has been edited by cliffw (edited 02-22-2023).]
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williegoat
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FEB 22, 09:29 AM
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BHall71
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FEB 22, 09:49 AM
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On second thought, if Putin or anyone else for that matter, really wanted to destroy America they would do nothing and let Biden continue to do what he IS doing.
| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Why stop there? How about nuking Mar-a-Lago?
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Sounds like your part of the problem. Why not take a trip to Ukraine yourself, Patrick?
Brian
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