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| Mr Projected Sea Level Rise Skeptic, that glass of water and ice cube meme is BULL*** (Page 2/9) |
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blackrams
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NOV 19, 07:51 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
I'm taking a bit of liberty here.
SNIP
This is my bid to find a (slightly) larger readership. Larger than zero. So now, without further ado, here is the crux of the matter. All that follows.
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So, one might draw the conclusion from the above posting that if enough people ignored your postings you'd go find another venue to pollute?
Just curious.
Rams
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olejoedad
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NOV 19, 10:03 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
So, one might draw the conclusion from the above posting that if enough people ignored your postings you'd go find another venue to pollute?
Just curious.
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Don't hold your breath.
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MidEngineManiac
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NOV 19, 12:22 PM
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Awwwww......And here I thought we were gonna wake up to waterworld tomoorow. 
Wont be happening then I guess. 
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rinselberg
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NOV 19, 12:30 PM
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Did either "blackrams" or "olejoedad" take notice of what 82-T/A [At Work] or Todd (if memory serves me) entered into the conversation? It's the 4th Reply or 5th Post, counting the "original". I'm still looking forward to reading that. I only got as far as the end of the very first part of it, where he offered the opinion that the meme that I posted at the very beginning of this thread was (or is) a "joke", and not to be taken at face value. I responded to that by saying that I think otherwise.
Once upon a time, the engagement level or responsiveness in this Totally O/T and now "Politics & Religion" section of Pennock's was much higher. I would call that an era of "vibrancy", because the discussions were many and vibrant, and many common and also some uncommon "vibes" were expressed. A bygone era. I'm still nostalgic for it.
What would make this thread even more of a "winner" for me?
What if either of the two forum members who have recently "trafficked" in this meme showed up here with something to say about it?
On each occasion, I offered this same explanation of how climate scientists differentiate between land ice and sea ice, and how that distinction conditions their projections about sea levels rising in a warming planetary climate. I pointed out how this unfortunate meme with the glass of water and an ice cube glosses over that point, and so, is erroneous in that regard. I "cannibalized" some of what I said before to use in this New Topic format.
The one of them (the two forum members) I regard as a forum "friend". Also the other forum member, although I wish he would exercise more discrimination in selecting the memes that are his habit to post on this forum. "Meme quality" is as important as "candidate quality", to echo a recent remark from Mitch McConnell. (Who remembers that?)
It would be spectacular if either of those two forum members showed up here—but I'm not holding my breath. Nor am I holding it against them, that they so far have not exercised that option.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 11-19-2022).]
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olejoedad
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NOV 19, 12:56 PM
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No, I was commenting on Ron's message, just hoping you would go pollute some other webspace with your incessant blathering.
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rinselberg
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NOV 19, 01:12 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
No, I was commenting on Ron's message, just hoping you would go pollute some other webspace with your incessant blathering. |
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I wonder if Ron (blackrams) and yourself (olejoedad) are a bit "chippy" about the midterms? As in "chip on your shoulder."
It's not as if either of you haven't dissed my "blathering" before, but this seems a little "extra".
It certainly wasn't a Blue Wave, but I'm surprised that the Democrats were able to retain at least their half share of the Senate (50 seats) and even more surprised at some of the successes for the Democrats at the state level. Michigan. Pennsylvania. Maryland. Minnesota, I think.
On a forum (this "Politics & Religion" section) where new remarks of any kind are not that common, it seems ironic that anyone would not openly welcome new remarks, even if they do not agree with the ideas or the sentiments that are being expressed.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 11-19-2022).]
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Fats
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NOV 19, 01:37 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Did either "blackrams" or "olejoedad" take notice of what 82-T/A [At Work] or Todd (if memory serves me) entered into the conversation? It's the 4th Reply or 5th Post, counting the "original". I'm still looking forward to reading that. I only got as far as the end of the very first part of it, where he offered the opinion that the meme that I posted at the very beginning of this thread was (or is) a "joke", and not to be taken at face value. I responded to that by saying that I think otherwise.
Once upon a time, the engagement level or responsiveness in this Totally O/T and now "Politics & Religion" section of Pennock's was much higher. I would call that an era of "vibrancy", because the discussions were many and vibrant, and many common and also some uncommon "vibes" were expressed. A bygone era. I'm still nostalgic for it.
What would make this thread even more of a "winner" for me?
What if either of the two forum members who have recently "trafficked" in this meme showed up here with something to say about it?
On each occasion, I offered this same explanation of how climate scientists differentiate between land ice and sea ice, and how that distinction conditions their projections about sea levels rising in a warming planetary climate. I pointed out how this unfortunate meme with the glass of water and an ice cube glosses over that point, and so, is erroneous in that regard. I "cannibalized" some of what I said before to use in this New Topic format.
The one of them (the two forum members) I regard as a forum "friend". Also the other forum member, although I wish he would exercise more discrimination in selecting the memes that are his habit to post on this forum. "Meme quality" is as important as "candidate quality", to echo a recent remark from Mitch McConnell. (Who remembers that?)
It would be spectacular if either of those two forum members showed up here—but I'm not holding my breath. Nor am I holding it against them, that they so far have not exercised that option.
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rinselberg
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NOV 19, 02:08 PM
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This topic came up in the other threads as a sidebar... as something that was only incidental or tangential to most of what was being said. Neither one of these threads were set up with "Sea Level" or "Melting Ice" in the front page list of threads or topics.
If you go back to the 4th Reply or 5th Post (counting the original) in this thread, there is a substantive and well thought out response on this topic from another forum member.
Is this really a "thread about another thread"..? I think the 4th Reply (or 5th Post) kind of shoots down that idea.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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NOV 19, 04:44 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Did either "blackrams" or "olejoedad" take notice of what 82-T/A [At Work] or Todd (if memory serves me) entered into the conversation? It's the 4th Reply or 5th Post, counting the "original". I'm still looking forward to reading that. I only got as far as the end of the very first part of it, where he offered the opinion that the meme that I posted at the very beginning of this thread was (or is) a "joke", and not to be taken at face value. I responded to that by saying that I think otherwise. |
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To be fair, I didn't watch any of your videos about land ice and sea ice. The only differentiator between a glacier, and an iceberg, is that it breaks off and falls in the water. But I learned a long time ago when I was a kid in science class, that the water in the glacier is significantly more dense than what you would make in your ice machine. The reason is varied, but it includes the immense pressure the ice is under from all the weight of the continuing frozen water above it, and the rate at which the water is frozen in the first place.
But yes... I wouldn't put too much stock into that meme, I'm not sure who created it, but it's not right.
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rinselberg
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NOV 19, 08:20 PM
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The seawater that's displaced when meltwater or glacial ice flows from land into the seas is a measure of how much water has been added to the oceans and how much of a contribution it makes to higher sea levels all around the world. It's the mass (essentially, the weight) of the meltwater or glacial ice that is significant, not the volume. For for an equal mass of water or ice, the effect on sea level is the same, whether it is densely packed glacial ice with hardly any air bubbles, or ice that is less dense (because of air bubbles) and comprises a comparatively larger volume. Like an ice cube from a household freezer or the freezer section of a Thermador home refrigerator.
I say "Thermador", because according to one of our keener political enthusiasts, these midterm elections should be described as "Thermador 2022".
Of course, he keeps misspelling it as "Thermidor" for some odd reason.
 [This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 11-19-2022).]
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