Now the CMA has gone woke (Page 2/4)
MidEngineManiac JUN 27, 04:56 PM
Most terms and labels have become meaningless, even "left" and "right", "liberal, nazi, and commie", and..and...and...Everything re-labeled, re-defined, reversed and re-imaged

It's an Orwellian double-speak wet dream.
MidEngineManiac JUN 27, 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

That's news to me. I haven't been as "plugged in" over the last few days as has been my previously longstanding custom. But this thread had its origin in the decision by the Country Music Association to banish the Confederate battle flag and other imagery of the Confederacy.

Is that "woke"..? I think it is very wrong-headed for anyone to describe that as being "woke" or succumbing to "woke." To ban, or to emphatically renounce the Confederate battle flag and the like. I say that is not "woke." I say, very emphatically, that is not "woke." I deplore that anyone considers that to be "woke."

This forum has the phenomenon of those that are constantly "going on" about how the Left misappropriates and misuses the "racism" accusation—not without reason—but this is kind of a mirror-world phenomenon, where "Right" replaces "Left", and "woke" replaces "racist."

Wake up!




WWWWWAAAAASSSIIIIISSSSSTTTTTTT enough yet ????

Because I dont see any there...and I guess she doesnt either

But CMA does.....
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(And Willie is correct....the term "Woke" replaced "Politically-Correct", probably just because it's easier to type. But, dont matter what they name it, It's still the same sheet and I still got no tolerance for it. Somebody got offended ? GOOD, they can STFU, GTFO and MYOB next time, and we will both have peace)

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rinselberg JUN 27, 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:
Woke is a term coined by the left to replace the hackneyed phrase "politically correct". It has no equivalence to the left's misuse and abuse of the term racist, which has become a meaningless epithet.


I don't know about that explanation. But people like MidEngineManiac are misusing and abusing "woke" in a way that is turning "woke" into a meaningless epithet whenever it is misused and abused in the sane way that it was misused and abused at the very start of this thread. He has been using "woke" as a derisive epithet. He is casting aspersions on anyone or any group that he considers to be "woke."

If people want to be part of the CMA's scenes or events, they are expected by the CMA to participate without any Confederate flags or garb that they may have. Same for NASCAR events.

If some people want to fantasize about the "good old days" when Blacks "knew their place", those people should not feel free to display that attitude publicly at CMA or NASCAR events. If they're trying to symbolize something other than that (other than White supremacy or White privilege) with the Confederate flags and imagery, then they need to find some other, more appropriate kinds of flags and garb or images.

That's not "woke." It's just common decency.
MidEngineManiac JUN 27, 06:34 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:


That's not "woke." It's just common decency.



No, it is NOT "common decency". It is censorship and thought-control, JUST like caged "free speech zones"

Like it or not (actually, tough **** ) free thought, belief and speech are legal rights, human rights and constitutional rights. They are hallmarks of freedom in a free society,. Those that try to "gain an upper hand" and enforce their P-C views are nothing more than petty tyrants....and as far as I am concerned, those kind belong in camps. Dont even bother with the gas, just throw them in the ovens alive so i can enjoy their screams while I take MY (not their) rights and freedoms back.

BTW, I wear mine tattooed on my right arm. Been there for 40 years. Molon Labe, if youse can.
Fats JUN 27, 06:38 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

I don't know about that explanation. But people like MidEngineManiac are misusing and abusing "woke" in a way that is turning "woke" into a meaningless epithet whenever it is misused and abused in the sane way that it was misused and abused at the very start of this thread. He has been using "woke" as a derisive epithet. He is casting aspersions on anyone or any group that he considers to be "woke."

If people want to be part of the CMA's scenes or events, they are expected by the CMA to participate without any Confederate flags or garb that they may have. Same for NASCAR events.

If some people want to fantasize about the "good old days" when Blacks "knew their place", those people should not feel free to display that attitude publicly at CMA or NASCAR events. If they're trying to symbolize something other than that (other than White supremacy or White privilege) with the Confederate flags and imagery, then they need to find some other, more appropriate kinds of flags and garb or images.

That's not "woke." It's just common decency.



It's strange to me that you are so weak-minded that in your mind, a place going "woke" just means that they banned a flag.

Lefties that advocate for the rape and murder of children don't get to preach about decency.
MidEngineManiac JUN 27, 06:39 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

If they're trying to symbolize something other than that (other than White supremacy or White privilege) with the Confederate flags and imagery, then they need to find some other, more appropriate kinds of flags and garb or images.




If ya dont like it, dont look at. Look the other way. It is NOT (by any stretch of the imagination) YOUR right to silence ANYBODY over YOUR inability to control your own emotions, and again, the woke lefties are NOT in charge, and we are NOT subservient to them.

**** 'em if they dont like it.

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MidEngineManiac JUN 27, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by Fats:


It's strange to me that you are so weak-minded that in your mind, a place going "woke" just means that they banned a flag.

Lefties that advocate for the rape and murder of children don't get to preach about decency.



Forget it, Fats. There is no getting through to them.

The just dont get it, that it is not about black, white, green, male, whatever, pimple-vs-non-pimple. Xtian vs Muzzie vs Jew vs GreatSpaghetti....

It's about our RIGHT not to be bothered with those people or groups we dont wish to, for whatever reason we deem fit. And to assemble (be bothered) with those we do.

As usual, it's not a race issue. Thats just the excuse. It's a power-and-control issue.

AND, the simple fact is, the main "modern" sentiment behind that flag they hate so much...is resistance and rebellion to exactly what they are trying to do. REBEL, not racist, ya idjits.

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rinselberg JUN 27, 07:52 PM
The people who are charged with charting the course of conduct and commerce for the Country Music Association (CMA) and NASCAR made these decisions as the executives and mangers of private enterprises, as is their prerogative,. CMA and NASCAR not public institutions. They're not agencies of government at any level, be it national, state, county or municipal.

If certain online "randos" (that would be two or more random people, as distinct from just one random person or "rando") don't like what CMA and NASCAR have decided about this, then it's on them to withhold or discontinue any patronage forCMA and NASCAR and it's on them to not show up at CMA or NASCAR-sponsored events.

Any ambitious rando or group of randos is free to start their own country music or stock car racing enterprise. They just won't be able to brand it as "CMA" or "NASCAR."


"Randos don't make the rules."

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MidEngineManiac JUN 27, 08:04 PM
You are correct they are closed entrance private functions, and have the right to ban whatever they want.

"Rando's" have the right to spend their money elsewhere and in the long run, the money talks.

HOWEVER, if not for actions on PUBLIC property with PUBLIC money and "Wokoe's" terrorizing (yes, economic terrorism is a crime) private industry (and private people) with their "cancel culture" and riots, the issue wouldn't exist in the 1st place.

The traditional fan-base of Rando's would continue to be profitable, the Wokoe's would continue to be welcome if they wanted or stay away of their own accord if they wanted, and the "cheering section" for their genocidal demise would probably be a lot smaller.

But they juuuussstttttt aren't smart enough to figure that out. They are too busy "changing and ruling the world" right into total destruction. They don't seem to realize the only thing they rule is in their hand when they take a pizz.

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82-T/A [At Work] JUN 27, 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Some of the "Democrats" at that Stop The Steal Rally, Vandalization and Assault-fest on January 6.





Hahah... it doesn't change the fact that they belonged to the Democrats back in the day!