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williegoat
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AUG 24, 12:34 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
So I am asking again.
What "experience" do you have that allows you to know the truth about what really started the Russia/Trump investigation?
If you don't watch the news then what do you do? Just sit and make stuff up in your head? What is your source of knowledge about what is happening in the world around you? You don't have the resources to investigate everything personally. So what is your source of "truth"?
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See above: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/...L/001079-5.html#p174
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BingB
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AUG 24, 12:38 PM
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This does not answer or explain anything.
Are you sure that is the correct link?
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BingB
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AUG 24, 12:41 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
Another name for that is wisdom, which you have not yet had enough experience to develop. |
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Another name for just making stuff up in your hear and claiming it is true is "delusion"
You have to have a source for knowledge. You can't just create it in your own head when you reach a certain age.
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williegoat
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AUG 24, 12:54 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
This does not answer or explain anything.
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Of course not, because...
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Are you sure that is the correct link?
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...the link is to your post.
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cliffw
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AUG 25, 03:04 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
"near decade ago, we witnessed the 2015-2016 Hillary Clinton/Democratic National Committee/FBI-assisted effort to plant the false accusation of Trump-Russian collusion to warp the 2016 election."
This is a lie. The Russia/trump collusion investigation was started by Trumps own man George Papadopoulos when he told and Australian diplomat Alexander Downer that the Russians had dirt on Hillary that they were going to give to Trump to help win the election. I have posted links to this multiple times, but you just refuse to accept the truth.
"That hoax would later sidetrack 22 months of his presidency before being proven a fantasy."
it was never proven to be a fantasy. The Meuller report concluded that they could not produce the evidence to charge Trump, but that was mainly because the people close to him went to jail for lying to try and obstruct the investigation. Mueller cited lots of evidence that suggests collusion particularly the Trump tower meeting set up by Donal Jr after the Russians told them they had dirt on Hillary. Trump repeatedly lied about the meeting until confronted with emails that forced him to admit to everything. |
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Are you saying the FBI will open an allegation on hear say, third party hear say ? Do they seek corroborating evidence ? Or, did they have it in for Trump ? Did the FBI's investigation's "Crossfire Hurricane" rely on the Steele dossier ? Did the FBI offer Christopher Steele $1 million to prove dossier claims, and he did not take the offer ? Do you deny that Clinton was behind the Steele dossier ? Do you deny the Steele dossier was leaked to the press by Clinton ? Do you deny that the FBI used Clintons leaked press reports as corroborating evidence. Do you deny that the FBI relied on the dossier five times after they discredited it, to obtain FISA warrants ?
Most notably on Carter Page. Do you deny that an FBI lawyer was found guilty and fined for doctoring Carter Page's emails ? Do you deny that the Justice Department's Inspector General looking into the FBI's nefarious actions found that
applications to spy on Carter Page were rife with factual misinformation and omissions ?
Do you deny that the FBI has always warned candidates about foreign influence that foreign actors use misinformation, disinformation, and malinformation campaigns to cause chaos, except for Trump ? Yet they were suspicious of Trump ?
| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
"These indictments would likely not have been filed, had Trump not run for office."
This argument is ridiculous considering all the charges that had been filed against Trump BEFORE he was President. Since there were charges from before he was President then you can't claim they only filed the charges because he was Prewsident. |
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What charges were filed ?
| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
"Similar federal charges could just as easily have led to the indictment of Biden -- if the special counsel in that case had not claimed that he could not convince a jury to convict a culpable but cognitively challenged Biden." |
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Actually Hur said the reason Biden should not be prosecuted was that they did not have the evidence to convict. He specifically addressed the problems with the evidence. The comments about Bidens mental condition were just superfluous partisan rhetoric.
They found top secret documents from when Joe Biden was a Senator. That is a smoking gun ! Biden's mental condition plague him today. What a dumbazz. He won the nomination but quit. After saying he was the best person to beat Trump. A mental dumbazz !
| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
"The donor-politico class further decided that, like a challenged Biden in 2024, Harris could not be allowed to hold press conferences. She would do few if any live interviews, unscripted town halls or any other venue given fears her visible liabilities might endanger her candidacy."
This is not true at all. Presidential candidates spend months preparing to run. |
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Not Camala.
| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
Harris had this dropped in her lap with no preparation. Nothing was ordered by the "donor politico class". Harris is simply taking the time to do the preparation every other candidate does. She will carefully craft her policies before publishing them. She is going to debate Trump. She is going to make many public appearances. She is going to talk to the press. |
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She was supposed to be ready on day one if need be.
| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
"current collusion with a compliant media to avoid public scrutiny and cross-examination of Harris."
It is only "collusion" in the make believe world of the right-wing echo chamber where all of the media are not calling her out for it. If you claim the media is colluding with Harris then you are proving that you never even look at any news sources outside of the right-wing bubble. |
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CNN host Jim Ocosta presses Harris camp on her avoiding media:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/n...ls?ocid=BingNewsSerp[/quote]
Are you making this up ? What is "BingNewsSerp" on the end of that link ?
| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
The Harris surrogate Harris communications director Michael Tyler laughed and said she and running mate Tim Walz had been "busy" traveling across the country, citing multiple campaign rallies. |
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Ah yes, scripted TelePrompTer events which are reruns of multiple campaign rallies. Boo bob Michael Tyler was not pressed !
| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/n...Up?ocid=BingNewsSerp
CNN's Erin Burnett wondered on Wednesday whether Vice President Harris would be better off ignoring interview requests from the media, as she continues to avoid the press in the early weeks of her campaign.
"She hasn’t done a big interview in a while here and certainly not since announcing," Burnett told media personality Charlamagne Tha God. "Are you going to talk to her soon? What do you think? What do you think she should do? Or does she do better to ignore all those calls to talk and just keep doing what she’s doing?"
"I think what she's been doing has worked because you know what she's been doing is hitting the ground. And I think, you know, sometimes we forget about the ground game in this digital era that we're in this era of interviews. Sometimes, you know – not sometimes, all the time when you're actually on the ground shaking hands, you know, kissing babies, actually touching people, that goes a long way," Charlamagne responded. |
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Where is Joe the Plumber when we need him ? Tha God lied !
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olejoedad
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AUG 25, 03:34 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
So I am asking again.
What "experience" do you have that allows you to know the truth about what really started the Russia/Trump investigation?
If you don't watch the news then what do you do? Just sit and make stuff up in your head? What is your source of knowledge about what is happening in the world around you? You don't have the resources to investigate everything personally. So what is your source of "truth"?
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I don't argue with children.
I was raised in an era where the rule was 'seen but not heard' and 'dont speak to an adult unless spoken to'.
Too bad our society got away from it.[This message has been edited by olejoedad (edited 08-25-2024).]
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BingB
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AUG 26, 11:15 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
Are you saying the FBI will open an allegation on hear say, third party hear say ?
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In what world would the FBI NOT open an investigation when the advisor of a candidate for President claims Russia is going to help them win the election.
I know in the world of Trump supporters he could shoot a man in public and you would not care, but no one else can imagine that the FBI would NOT investigate such a claim from such a source.
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BingB
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AUG 26, 11:21 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
I don't argue with children.
I was raised in an era where the rule was 'seen but not heard' and 'dont speak to an adult unless spoken to'.
Too bad our society got away from it.
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Typical Republican. Always trying to restrict freedom of speech.
But still not answering any questions about how he obtained magical powers to divine the truth without any outside source of information.
To bad that you don't argue with children. They are the only ones who would believe a story like that.[This message has been edited by BingB (edited 08-26-2024).]
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NewDustin
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AUG 26, 12:55 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
Prove to me that Rene Descartes existed. Prove that you have not been deceived. |
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I see what you did there, you clever sunuvagun.
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cliffw
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AUG 26, 04:26 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
In what world would the FBI NOT open an investigation when the advisor of a candidate for President claims Russia is going to help them win the election. |
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Do you mean the FBI who knew/know that Russia always plants misinformation ? Who corroborated that hear say claim ?
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