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olejoedad
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JAN 23, 01:28 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
The surface of the seas in the Arctic freezes during fall and winter, forming ice packs. The ice packs thaw during spring and summer, and become seawater again. This seasonal cycle between seawater and ice pack has no effect on sea level. It's not adding to (or subtracting from) the amount of water in the oceans.
Sea level doesn't change when seawater at the surface of the ocean freezes and forms ice packs. Sea level doesn't change when the ice packs melt and revert to seawater again. It's in accordance with Archimedes principle of buoyancy.
No matter how thick the pack ice (or ice packs), this is frozen water that's floating on the sea. It's actually above sea level. It displaces or "pushes upwards" the same volume of seawater that equals its mass. You could be in the Arctic and looking upwards at pack ice that is so thick that it rises above you. But that doesn't change the sea level where you would be, at that place in the Arctic, and it doesn't change the sea level anywhere else around the world.
BUT... when ice sheets and glaciers, in Antarctica and Greenland (the two biggest) and other places melt, the meltwater flows into the ocean. Or the glaciers themselves, lubricated by meltwater, slide off the land and into the ocean, becoming ice bergs. These are processes that move water from land areas to oceans and so, increase the amount of water in the oceans—and that causes sea levels to rise.
To model what happens when ice sheets on land or glaciers melt or flow into the sea, the experiment would have to start, not with the ice cube already floating in the water in that measuring cup, but with the ice cube—having been taken from the freezer section of the refrigerator across the room—in the hand of Greta Thunberg before she drops it into the water. That would cause the water level in the measuring cup to rise, proportionate to the mass of the ice cube. Ergo, sea level rise.
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If you think forum member Wichita doesn't already know that, then you're not paying attention.
Have you had your chain pulled recently?
Why, yes.
Yes you have!
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williegoat
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JAN 23, 01:38 PM
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In my last job, I managed a fleet of trucks hauling produce out of Cal. I have had a lot of contact with CARB. They are evil, but fortunately, not very bright.
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cliffw
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JAN 23, 02:35 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
You want to take a stab at explaining it to him?
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Why do you think we are ever going to believe your Green bullzhit,  ?
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rinselberg
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JAN 23, 02:51 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
Why do you think we are ever going to believe your Green bullzhit, ? |
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If you scroll back a ways, you would see a remark from Wichita. He framed it as a question. He asked "Why don't we see..?"
I offered my explanation of the why of "Why don't we see..."
My explanation is grounded in the most commonplace and historically earliest knowledge of physics, including Archimedes principle of buoyancy. It's an explanation that has nothing to do with carbon dioxide, or greenhouse gases, or whether or not the earth's climate is warming, or anything like that.
So what's your "beef"..? It's being perceived here as a wide-angle beef, or a beef that's looking down from 30,000 feet. A beef that does not follow directly from what I explained in reaction to that remark from Wichita. A beef that finds its expression in the abstract and the metaphysical; not the concrete or the existential. A beef redolent of ivy-covered brick and dark, muted color schemes; of patterned wallpapers and mid-20th century lighting fixtures.
It's a beef I will not eat.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-23-2023).]
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Fitz301
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JAN 23, 06:04 PM
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How much do the sea levels "rise" everytime an iceberg breaks off a glacier and is set afloat in the north Atlantic?
Exactly how much?
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cliffw
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JAN 23, 06:09 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
Why do you think we are ever going to believe your Green bullzhit, ? |
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
If you scroll back a ways, you would see a remark from Wichita. He framed it as a question. He asked "Why don't we see..?"
I offered my explanation of the why of "Why don't we see..." |
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My, is that the best that you can do ? I see that you do have a problem touting reasons explaining why Global Warming is real, and that the planet is doomed.
The End Is Near, the world will cease to exist.
| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
My explanation is grounded in the most commonplace and historically earliest knowledge of physics, including Archimedes principle of buoyancy. It's an explanation that has nothing to do with carbon dioxide, or greenhouse gases, or whether or not the earth's climate is warming, or anything like that. |
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Like I said, your a funny guy. Do you even understand physics ? Your the poster child for evolution.
Are you scared that we will not evolve if the temperature goes up one degree. In 100 years.
| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
So what's your "beef"..? |
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It's damn sure is not something that tastes like meat.
| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
It's being perceived here as a wide-angle beef, or a beef that's looking down from 30,000 feet. A beef that does not follow directly from what I explained in reaction to that remark from Wichita. A beef that finds its expression in the abstract and the metaphysical; not the concrete or the existential. A beef redolent of ivy-covered brick and dark, muted color schemes; of patterned wallpapers and mid-20th century lighting fixtures.
It's a beef I will not eat.
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Can anyone tell me what he said ?
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rinselberg
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JAN 23, 08:19 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Wichita:
The Arctic ocean freeze and thaw cycle over enormous amount of ice, around 10,000,000 square kilometers every single year. But we don't see the Greta Gore floods wiping away the beachfront properties every [sic] Why? |
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https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-23-2023).]
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cliffw
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JAN 24, 09:56 AM
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How much crap can you absorb ? And believe.
There are lies, damn lies, statistics, and fake news.
Do you ever self analyze the crap you read ?
There are lies, damn lies, statistics, and graphs that tell 100 lies, and fake news.
What did you see in that article with graphs that made you BELIEVE in what was stated ?
One day I will die. I will not be around to do your critical thinking for you.
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Fitz301
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JAN 24, 11:20 AM
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The sea alledgedly rose "102.5 millimeters" (4 inches), really? The whole 4 INCHES?
Buy boats everybody, the world's coming to an end yet again!
So would this be based on a flat plane ocean, or the real one where most waves, on a calm day, are over 4 inches?
"Run for your lives kids, here come a 102.5 millimeter wave...AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!! - I hope our home owners insurance is paid up!!"
What f-tard would actually believe this BS?
Time for the climate change carbon loonies to get real jobs, the truth of the matter is humans are the carbon they want to get rid of. Carbon dioxide is not now, nor was it ever, a "greenhouse gas", and "globull warming" is a complete hoax. Period.[This message has been edited by Fitz301 (edited 01-24-2023).]
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MidEngineManiac
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JAN 24, 11:55 AM
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