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cliffw AUG 17, 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:
I don't want to comment on the article until I have reviewed it again. I can't say when (or if) that happens.



Ah yes. Typical Leftoid strategy. Make the headlines. Print the retraction days later, on page 17.
fredtoast AUG 17, 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by cliffw:


I remember too. The only gestapo opinion allowed was government intelligence. Conversations were shut down if they do not agree with government directive..




You were obviously not on facebook or twitter or listening to any podcasts..

I saw all sorts of discussions of alternative treatment and/or arguments to not take the vaccine. They were literally EVERYWHERE.

Our President at the time even made some unusual suggestions.

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ray b AUG 17, 09:18 AM
your google is weak

here is the NY time's story

https://www.reddit.com/r/St...ou_havent/?rdt=40844

scroll down a few lines

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82-T/A [At Work] AUG 17, 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:
I don't want to comment on the article until I have reviewed it again. I can't say when (or if) that happens.

Have you asked for it by activating the http link? I don't know if the New York Times provides "freebies" anymore to people who aren't subscribers. As in "you can have this article, but to have another one, you need to become a subscriber."

If it is blocking you because you are not a subscriber, there's a trick that might work. Activate the http link, and then do whatever you do to command your Internet browser to terminate the webpage before it has finished loading into your browser. If it works, you have the article, and the thing where it blocks you from seeing it because you are not a subscriber doesn't happen, because you stopped that from happening when you terminated the loading of the webpage.




Yes, going into debug and wiping out the panes that are blocking the article. That's a lot of effort to read an article that I have significantly limited interest in reading anyway.

I got it from a copy/paste in RayB's Reddit link. Which, Ray... my Googles work fine, haha... I just didn't bother to search for it. Again... limited interest to be talked at from an opinion piece.


Summarizing essentially what they've said:


Like San Francisco, St. Louis has had lots of crime, drug use, and homelessness... which they basically infer is as a result of the city being "deep blue." They reluctantly refer to the city's leadership as having cut more than 100 police positions (which they couldn't fill) and amidst police officers quitting, they re-assigned those funds to social services. They say Republicans claim St. Louis leadership is "soft on crime," which I think we kind of agree they are... but the editor doesn't outright agree with that.

But then they say that Republican pundits don't point to St. Louis' failure because it's in a red state. They then go on to list a few reasons why they (the editor) believes Republicans are exacerbating the problems in St. Louis. They list the following:

- The state's mandatory increase of minimum wage to $11, but restricting cities from increasing it further on their own.
- The state's gun laws which they say increases the amount of gun violence (or just violence in general)
- The state's tax-cut plan, which they say dramatically affects the ability for the city to get revenue from the state


So, that's that... I'd say about 2/3rds of the article talks about gun crime... which I think is a failed argument because the state of Florida has the most open gun laws in the country (as of July of this year), and Miami is one of the most prosperous cities in the country. Miami is currently undergoing a renaissance period. The entire Miami skyline is changing. Rinse... I could go on for hours talking about Miami. The amount of money pouring into Miami is unbelievable.

Which brings me to the third item... tax cuts... Miami instituted tax cuts, as have Florida in general (except Property taxes, which are county-based), and that's resulted in Florida being the #1 destination for people to move to over the past three years. So I think those last two arguments are tenuous at best.

I can't say how I feel about the first one. Using Miami as an example again, the state of Florida mandated that we would achieve a minimum wage of $15 dollars an hour by 2023... so... this year, everyone makes at least $15 an hour, and there's no provision that prevents cities or counties from mandating an even higher minimum wage. Miami is doing fine, but because so many people have moved in, it's truthfully resulted in a shortage of workers because the cost of living has gotten so high. Miami is trying to rectify this by mandating low-cost multi-unit apartment units throughout Miami-Dade county with improved public transit to and from them. So they're trying to fix that.

Also though, the cost of living is substantially different from St. Louis to Miami.
- Taxes in St. Louis, MO are 25% higher in St. Louis than they are in Miami
- General Cost of Living is 10% higher in Miami than it is in St. Louis

So looking at that comparison, it seems to me that St. Louis has a high tax problem in the city.
fredtoast AUG 17, 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Ray, we can blame Nixon if you want... but I think the USD should never have been taken off the gold standard. It's basically worthless... like, what makes it valuable? Because we print it?...



United Sates has the largest Gross Domestic product in the world by a very large margin. Almost 40% greater than second place China.

That is what backs the debt of the United States as well as our currency.

What determins the price of gold. If it is such a perfect pure standard then why does the price of gold fluctuate so much over time?

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Wichita AUG 17, 07:55 PM
Anyone see the footage of the leftist who shot the cops in Fargo? Very disturbing. There is no excuse for that, although the left is celebrating the death and injury of police officers.

Leftist are not good people.

Patrick AUG 17, 08:16 PM
rinselberg AUG 17, 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by Wichita:

Anyone see the footage of the leftist who shot the cops in Fargo? Very disturbing. There is no excuse for that, although the left is celebrating the death and injury of police officers.

Leftist are not good people.


I just did some online searching. I saw nothing that provides any indication that the Fargo perpetrator Mohamad Barakat was a "leftist" or is known to have any particular political ideas or leanings. I saw nothing to suggest that anyone has connected him with any kind of Islamic-motivated fanaticism.


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Barakat [age 37] was a Syrian national who came to the U.S. on an asylum request in 2012 and became a U.S. citizen in 2019, [North Dakota AG Drew] Wrigley said, adding that he didn’t appear to have any ties to the Muslim community in Fargo. He said Barakat had some family in the U.S., but not in the Fargo area, and that investigators are still looking into his history before he arrived in the country.


I'm open to seeing any evidence from Wichita (or anyone else) that would give credence to the idea that there's anything on record about this Mohamad Barakat that would categorize him as having been a "leftist."



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Originally posted by Wichita:
the left is celebrating the death and injury of police officers.


Oh yeah. Was it Biden that was caught on an open mic, having a chuckle about the murder of the one Fargo police officer, and the injuries sustained by the two other police officers and a third person? Or was that Chuck Schumer? Or could it have been AOC ..? I thought I read something like that, but now I can't remember it very clearly.

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Wichita AUG 17, 09:26 PM

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Patrick AUG 17, 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by Wichita:

Anyone see the footage of the leftist who shot the cops in Fargo? Very disturbing. There is no excuse for that, although the left is celebrating the death and injury of police officers.