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MidEngineManiac
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AUG 15, 12:08 PM
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BAH...
Here it is "Duty to retreat" and if you even think about standing your ground you get charged with uttering threats at minimum. 99% of the time the charges get tossed but it is still a PITA to deal with.
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cliffw
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AUG 15, 12:14 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Yeah, when I was writing that (shooting in the back), I am curious as to whether or not the "Stand Your Ground" law would allow this. I kind of want to look it up, but don't know that I want to go through the effort. To be honest, having my space violated by an attacker or someone breaking into my home, I would want to at least shoot the person in the leg to prevent them from running away... that way at least I could ensure they get arrested. |
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First of all, a recent case in Texas (I will see if I can find it) where a person shot another robbing his neighbors home, as they ran. I don't remember that the culprit died, or if the neighbor was even charged.
Let me check.
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cliffw
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AUG 15, 12:25 PM
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jdv
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AUG 16, 07:49 PM
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82-T/A [At Work]
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AUG 16, 08:23 PM
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They don't really show a video of the altercation, or I am just not seeing it.
I'm not sure how "stand your ground" applies to a parking space on private property that isn't yours. So on first glance, by words alone, it sounds ridiculous. Was the shooter being physically attacked, and he took out his gun to defend himself? Or was he using his gun to try to get a parking space that someone "stole" from him?
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Patrick
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AUG 16, 08:32 PM
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Well, since there was no video worthwhile watching at the supplied link... I located the surveillance video Here. (Can't be embedded due to age restriction.)
Guy goes out of his way to provoke an extended altercation, and then shoots someone for pushing him. Seems to me the court made the proper decision.
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jdv
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AUG 16, 09:06 PM
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Thanks for the link Patrick. The law is not a free for all to go out and kill. I think they both where in the wrong as neither one of them needed to act that way. [This message has been edited by jdv (edited 08-16-2023).]
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cliffw
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AUG 17, 12:11 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
That was addressed to me, and I'd appreciate a follow-up on it. |
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Be careful of what you ask for.
| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Infecting a good organization which ia political neutral organization...Organization? Does that mean the Pennock's forum? |
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Cancer does not discriminate.
| quote | | I have never equated my online conversations via Pennock's, which are now the only online conversations that I have, as any kind of political activism or any attempt at being an online "influencer." |
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Of course not. I am perfect too.
| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
I think anyone who thought that way about their online conversations on Pennock's would be having an hallucination—a mystical and mirage-like delusion of grandeur—about what they are doing when they engage with the Pennock's forum. It would be evidence of a narcissistic psychological disorder, and I don't believe I have that kind of psychology, and certainly, not to the extent that I would be succumbing to that severe of a level of self-deception and "daydreams." |
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Does "anyone" include you ?
| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
(An argument could be made for saying "affect change"—as you have it—but I think what you really wanted to say is "effect change." But that's really neither here nor there, as the old bromide reacts... because what else would a salt compound comprised in part by the element Br be able to do?) |
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Affect is the reason something is effected. Eat a french fry. Add salt. A french fry was effected.
| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Does saying "leftoid" instead of "leftist" put a little extra dill in your pickle? (So to speak.)
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A rose by any other name ....
What else you got ?[This message has been edited by cliffw (edited 08-17-2023).]
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fredtoast
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AUG 17, 02:48 PM
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This is a bad decision by the grand jury.
I own a gun. I 100% believe in the Castle Doctrine, but the Castle Doctrine does not apply to a neighbors home.
This kind of "vigilante justice" is the reason Ahmad Abrery was murdered in cold blood by "concerned neighbors"
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PhatMax
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AUG 17, 03:28 PM
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Well, just the other day some pieces of crap came out of the city to our farm community to break in a farmers bldg, fill their trailer with 2 ATV’s, a GUN SAFE ! And other tools and drive down the road…. A neighbor watched them do it then proceeded to follow the vehicle while on the road with the police…they got caught. Both arrested…one released within 24 hours. The other kept as he was caught with a gun on him with the numbers filed off. Personally, If I was the neighbor, I would have prob shot them both…who knows where the guns in the safe would have ended up. So, yeah in this case I think the neighbor would have been justified….
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