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williegoat
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MAY 27, 10:36 PM
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The way I see it, there were three opportunities to prevent the Uvalde murders.
The the kid had a miserable family life. I am not sure it could even be called family life. Somewhere along the way, someone should have recognized this. Maybe the schools should have seen it. I have been through training to recognize drug abuse, school faculty should have something similar.
The next opportunity for intervention came after the many overt warning signs, threats, social media posts, etc.
The last chance (and this is controversial) seems to be a breakdown in safety protocol at the school and possibly a lack of training of the initial responding officers. Because the story is still fluid and we must rely on news reports, I could be way off base on this one. We shall see.
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MidEngineManiac
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MAY 27, 11:57 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
The way I see it, there were three opportunities to prevent the Uvalde murders.
The the kid had a miserable family life. I am not sure it could even be called family life. Somewhere along the way, someone should have recognized this. Maybe the schools should have seen it. I have been through training to recognize drug abuse, school faculty should have something similar. |
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A **** -ton-lot of us did without turning into mass murderers. I could tell of abuse that wouldn't even be called abuse, downright torture.
| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
The next opportunity for intervention came after the many overt warning signs, threats, social media posts, etc. |
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Possibly, but for some they are just "rough around the edges" and have a dark sense of humor. Threats need to be taken in context (IE: defensive or offensive.)
| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
The last chance (and this is controversial) seems to be a breakdown in safety protocol at the school and possibly a lack of training of the initial responding officers. Because the story is still fluid and we must rely on news reports, I could be way off base on this one. We shall see. |
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BINGO !!!!.....but it seems to be going around. So does generalized stupidity. This one was in Toronto today.
https://torontosun.com/news...wn-in-citys-east-end
If you are going to walk down a city street with a rifle in Toronto, put the thing in a violin case !!![This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 05-27-2022).]
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williegoat
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MAY 28, 12:08 AM
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williegoat
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MAY 28, 12:28 AM
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So the guy was shot because he had a pellet gun? I read several articles and could not find out what he did. All of the articles said that people were scared because he had a pellet gun, so the cops shot him. That can't be it, can it?
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randye
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MAY 28, 12:34 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
The way I see it, there were three opportunities to prevent the Uvalde murders.
The the kid had a miserable family life. I am not sure it could even be called family life. Somewhere along the way, someone should have recognized this. Maybe the schools should have seen it. I have been through training to recognize drug abuse, school faculty should have something similar.
The next opportunity for intervention came after the many overt warning signs, threats, social media posts, etc.
The last chance (and this is controversial) seems to be a breakdown in safety protocol at the school and possibly a lack of training of the initial responding officers. Because the story is still fluid and we must rely on news reports, I could be way off base on this one. We shall see
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It's worth noting that the last of those opportunities required a good man with a gun to stop a bad man with one.
The solution to the school shootings is 5 simple words.
MANDATORY ARMED SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS
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MidEngineManiac
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MAY 28, 12:38 AM
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Yup.
Welcome to Canada.
I don't have any of mine on display here at this place (even though its legal with a trigger lock) because if somebody sees them through the window I got a swat team kicking down the door. One of the few downsides of ground floor.
People have been conditioned to go mental in panic at just the sight of something that looks like one.
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williegoat
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MAY 28, 12:47 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:
Yup.
Welcome to Canada.
I don't have any of mine on display here at this place (even though its legal with a trigger lock) because if somebody sees them through the window I got a swat team kicking down the door. One of the few downsides of ground floor.
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This is what the left wants for America.
I watched this Youtube video from CBC news: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrNg662L-yk
This is the first comment: "The recent horrendous shootings and mass murders in American schools have put everyone on high alert. Erring on the side of caution is understandable. Maybe not right but understandable. Nobody should be walking around with a gun on display. A bb gun is not visually recognisable as a bb gun."
"Erring on the side of caution is understandable." This is the mindset that I am fighting against. What they are saying is: If someone worries you, the government should kill him. I don't see how anyone can think this is civilized.
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MidEngineManiac
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MAY 28, 01:57 AM
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This is the kind of thing they are using for justification...
https://www.personaldefense...nlmwiuCIJkd9A7F3A%3D
And in all honesty, I cant really blame them for not knowing and once ya do, you will always be second-guessing.
I'd have never taken that thing for a Glock.
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blackrams
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MAY 28, 05:47 AM
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This was on my signature line for a very long time.
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun?
For some unremembered reason I changed it to something else but, it is still accurate and the truth.
Consider our current tragedy and tell me the left isn't doing the exact same thing now.
We need to remember who the bad guy was in Texas.
Rams
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rinselberg
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MAY 28, 10:57 AM
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The most recent high-profile murder spree where the perp(s) used bombs (or a bomb) as their murder weapon was the Boston Marathon bombing in 2013.
Then there was the Nashville bombing in 2020, although I had to think a bit longer to remember that one. (That perp only murdered or suicided himself, although he injured people and destroyed significant property.)
Bombs vs. Guns as the murder weapons of choice for America's menagerie of miscellaneously-motivated murderers is a sharply dissimilar comparison. It's like Kumquats vs. Oranges, in terms of commonality. (When's the last time you had a Kumquat? An Orange, or Orange Juice? Include slices used as garnishes, or twists, or zest. Flavors, glazes and sauces.) And that's why the preceding remark from "Rams" is not all that overwhelming or forceful in its logic.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 05-28-2022).]
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