So this message-image appeared towards the bottom of the previous thread page.

Bottom Right... I don't know exactly who or what that Hispanic-looking face is supposed to signify, but I think this message-image is a nod to a widely-held belief among the Ignoramus community that "Hispanic" and "White Supremacist" are inherently mutually exclusive categories.

Here's something from Jordan Pearson (Jordan and I go "way back" ) at VICE.

quote On Saturday, a man wearing a “Right Wing Death Squad” patch opened fire at a shopping mall and killed 8 people. The shooter, 33-year-old Mauricio Garcia, had an online history that included posting multiple neo-Nazi tattoos and memes such as “latino children” having to choose between “acting black” and “becoming white supremacist” on a Russian social media site. The mass shooting was the 199th in the U.S. this year. The next day, there were 7 more across the country, according to data from the Gun Violence Archive. The shooting was, tragically, not a unique event. It’s not unique that a white supremacist killed numerous people in a mass shooting, and it’s not unique that the shooter was [an Hispanic American] who apparently held white supremacist beliefs. Racism and colorism exist in [Hispanic American] communities, and two of the most high-profile far-right agitators in recent years—Nick Fuentes and convicted Proud Boys seditionist Enrique Tarrio—have [Hispanic] heritage. Garcia even posted about Fuentes being an inspiration.

"Elon Musk Thinks the Texas Neo-Nazi Mass Shooting Is ‘Odd,’ ‘Very Strange,’ ‘Gets Weirder By the Moment’"
Jordan Pearson for VICE; May 9, 2023.
https://www.vice.com/en/art...ss-shooting-neo-nazi

"You make the call."


Jordan (we're on a first names basis ) or whoever set up the report used "hispanic", but I think "Hispanic" is preferable. That's why some of that quoted text is enclosed within the bracket symbols [like this] to indicate that I changed "hispanic" to "Hispanic".

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I don't know about VICE media, on the whole, but don't overlook the one specific report that I singled out that's been published on VICE:

quote On Saturday, a man wearing a “Right Wing Death Squad” patch opened fire at a shopping mall and killed 8 people. The shooter, 33-year-old Mauricio Garcia, had an online history that included posting multiple neo-Nazi tattoos and memes such as “latino children” having to choose between “acting black” and “becoming white supremacist” on a Russian social media site. The mass shooting was the 199th in the U.S. this year. The next day, there were 7 more across the country, according to data from the Gun Violence Archive. The shooting was, tragically, not a unique event. It’s not unique that a white supremacist killed numerous people in a mass shooting, and it’s not unique that the shooter was [an Hispanic American] who apparently held white supremacist beliefs. Racism and colorism exist in [Hispanic American] communities, and two of the most high-profile far-right agitators in recent years—Nick Fuentes and convicted Proud Boys seditionist Enrique Tarrio—have [Hispanic] heritage. Garcia even posted about Fuentes being an inspiration.

The bottom right quadrant of that message-image that was posted (by Wichita) looks to me like it is playing to conspiracy theory, and expressing a denial or diversion from the reports that the shopping mall murderer in Allen, TX, was an Hispanic man who had immersed himself in Neo-Nazi and (essentially) White Supremacist "idiotology."

I can't imagine that anyone on this forum would have anything remotely credible to say that would lend credibility to the bottom right quadrant of that message-meme (posted by Wichita) which seems to be expressing the idea that there's something highly suspect about the idea that an Hispanic could become a Neo-Nazi White Supremacist, or that a Hispanic could commit violence and murder with the idea of somehow furthering or falling into line with Neo-Nazi White Supremacism.

There isn't anything all that suspect about it, and Proud Boy Enrique Tarrio and Mar-a-Lago dinner guest and Holocaust Denier Nick Fuentes are already enough in themselves to cause the Cosmic Boot of Truth to descend to earth from the black hole at the center of our galaxy and smash the bottom right quadrant of that meme-message (that Wichita posted) into the Alternate Universe of Delusional Thinking, where it belongs.


Targeted for destruction by the Cosmic Boot of Truth... the bottom right quadrant where the words WHITE SUPREMACIST are superimposed.

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I see "David Rozado" on that data plot (lower left) and so I wanted to find something about David Rozado.

"Where did woke ideas start to spread?"

quote A new paper suggests the phenomenon may be global—not American.

quote “TEAM AMERICA: WORLD POLICE”, a comedy puppet film, pokes fun at American self-importance. The theme song boasts of the things the country has created: McDonald’s, the NFL and rock-and-roll; also, less plausibly, liberty, Christmas and books. New work by David Rozado of Te Pukenga–New Zealand Institute of Skills and Technology suggests something else that Americans did not invent: the “woke” phenomenon. The term refers to a loose constellation of ideas that have changed how educated, left-leaning folk view the world. It says all disparities between racial groups are proof of structural racism; that norms of free speech, individualism and universalism are camouflage for discrimination; and that injustice will persist until systems of privilege are dismantled. The conventional wisdom says that woke ideas began in the social-science departments of American universities, migrated to the country’s newspapers and spread elsewhere.

That's as much as I can see without registering or starting a trial subscription with The Economist.

The Economist; April 13, 2023.
https://www.economist.com/f...deas-start-to-spread

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