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WonderBoy
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JAN 20, 09:41 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by WonderBoy:
Live from Davos Switzerland I give you Al "Albert" Gore:
"...it's been predicted in model calculations that there's a 75% chance that within 5-7 years, the polar ice cap will disappear..."
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Notice how A.I. bot of the cabal, known as R.I., replies to 'Fitz301' (who was responding to my post) changed the direction and started talking about the south pole/Antarctica in the past tense 90 million years ago. It's the typical deflection by not addressing Al 'Alberto' Gores totally outlandish blathering about a 75% chance that within 5-7 years, the polar ice caps will disappear. Couldn't/wouldn't say a damn thing to defend a representative of the Green God.
Well R.I. bot, is Alberto and his 'scientists' (whom live their lavish lifestyles on taxpayer funded government grants) who made the computer model projections right or wrong? Nobody gives a fly F about what "Pangea" was like or the south pole 90 million years ago.
You can't handle the inconvenient truth.
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rinselberg
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JAN 21, 07:42 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by WonderBoy:
Notice how A.I. bot of the cabal, known as R.I., replies to 'Fitz301' (who was responding to my post) changed the direction and started talking about the south pole/Antarctica in the past tense 90 million years ago. It's the typical deflection by not addressing Al 'Alberto' Gores totally outlandish blathering about a 75% chance that within 5-7 years, the polar ice caps will disappear. Couldn't/wouldn't say a damn thing to defend a representative of the Green God.
Well R.I. bot, is Alberto and his 'scientists' (whom live their lavish lifestyles on taxpayer funded government grants) who made the computer model projections right or wrong? Nobody gives a fly F about what "Pangea" was like or the south pole 90 million years ago. You can't handle the inconvenient truth. |
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This is a reference to something that Al Gore said in 2009, but what he actually said was this:
| quote | | The North Pole will be ice-free in the summer by 2013 because of man-made global warming. |
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That is a somewhat more conservative prediction than "the polar ice caps will disappear", because he was only talking about the northern or Arctic polar ice cap, and he was only talking about summer in the Northern Hemisphere. He wasn't saying that all the ice in the Arctic will be gone by the summer of one of the next 5-7 years (after 2009) and that's all the ice in the Arctic that will ever be. He wasn't speaking clearly, but he was talking about the sea ice in the Arctic and when, in the yearly cycle of seasons, the amount of sea ice in the Arctic would be down to its smallest amount, during any particular year.
I don't have any particular reason to stand up for Al Gore. He's not a scientist. He doesn't perform or publish scientific research. As far as I know, he's not part of any established institution that has scientists on its staff.
If anyone wants to drill down on what Al Gore said (instead of what they think Al Gore said) and how it lines up with scientific data and research, this is a good "read" and it's not very long:
"Did Al Gore Say North Pole Will Be Ice-Free By 2013?"
Adrian Wong for Tech ARP; March 3, 2021.
https://www.techarp.com/int...north-pole-ice-free/[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-21-2023).]
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Fitz301
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JAN 21, 03:39 PM
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Al Mediawhore was full crap then, and he's still full of crap.
Must have run out of "An Inconvenient Snowjob" checks, because, once again, when there's money to be had, he's out schilling the same BS grift from 30 years ago.
Hey Al, get some new material! We've seen this act already![This message has been edited by Fitz301 (edited 01-21-2023).]
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rinselberg
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JAN 22, 01:43 PM
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| quote | The world’s oceans absorbed record amounts of heat from the atmosphere last year [2022], which slowed the rise of temperatures over land, while fueling powerful storms and weather systems that are damaging communities across the globe, federal climate scientists said.
The amount of heat energy contained in the top layer of the world’s oceans has been growing each year since 2019 and is now at record levels, according to a new report by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration released Thursday[, January 12, 2023.] |
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That's as much as I could read, without subscribing ($) to the Wall Street Journal.
"World’s Oceans Absorbed Record Heat From Warming Climate in 2022"
| quote | | Temperatures hit record levels across parts of Europe, while global average temperature was sixth-highest since record-keeping began, NOAA says |
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Eric Niiler for the Wall Street Journal; January 12, 2023.
https://www.wsj.com/article...-in-2022-11673546873
"A researcher releases an instrument called a Deep Argo float into the North Pacific to measure ocean heat and salinity." Photo credit: Rich Walsh.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-22-2023).]
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WonderBoy
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JAN 22, 02:31 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Eric Niiler for the Wall Street Journal; January 12, 2023.
https://www.wsj.com/article...-in-2022-11673546873
"A researcher releases an instrument called a Deep Argo float into the North Pacific to measure ocean heat and salinity." Photo credit: Rich Walsh.
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1-12-2023
Small boat
And STILL wearing a F'n mask... What, these guys on NOAA's ark not jabbed? Joke.[This message has been edited by WonderBoy (edited 01-22-2023).]
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MidEngineManiac
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JAN 22, 02:36 PM
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Jeeze Rinse, ya never heard of a pole-shift ?
When the arctic was lush and and green millions of years ago, it wasn't AT the arctic. Plus the planet likely had a different tilt to it.
Just because it's there now, doesnt mean it always has been.
As for the other end of the planet, do some research on Admiral Richard Byrd and Operation Highjump. Lot's of good pics and videos online. It wasnt always a frozen wasteland either.[This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 01-22-2023).]
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rinselberg
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JAN 22, 08:18 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:
Jeeze Rinse, ya never heard of a pole-shift ?
When the arctic was lush and and green millions of years ago, it wasn't AT the arctic. Plus the planet likely had a different tilt to it.
Just because it's there now, doesnt mean it always has been.
As for the other end of the planet, do some research on Admiral Richard Byrd and Operation Highjump. Lot's of good pics and videos online. It wasnt always a frozen wasteland either. |
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You're referring to shifts in the earth's magnetic axis. That's a "pole shift".
I've been discussing the earth's diurnal or rotational axis—not the earth's magnetic axis. It's the diurnal (daily) rotation of the earth around its axis where the angle of the sunlight at the polar regions came in to the discussion about the prevailing climate in the Arctic and Antarctic and how it was different and warmer at times. I don't want to repeat what I said. I think it's mostly on the page before this one, where I said.
You do have a good point, though, about "tilt". That would be the tilt of the earth's rotational axis, relative to the orbital plane of the earth as it travels around the sun. The Precession of the Equinoxes.
I don't think that is considered the dominant factor in terms of the "greening" of the Antarctic continent 90 million years ago, or the similar lush, temperate climate of the Arctic of 125,000 years ago that was inferred upon the basis of DNA evidence. Samples from Greenland (I think) that were dated to 125,000 years ago and still had "readable" DNA. But if I were going to take that up (and I should), I would go to the research reports in Nature and try to see if connections were made with the roughly 26,000-year cycle that is the Precession of the Equinoxes.
"Good catch"[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-22-2023).]
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MidEngineManiac
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JAN 22, 09:15 PM
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Point is/was, with the Arctic/Antarctic at their current position, they have no choice but be what they are. Cant be anything else, that's just the way solar radiation and suns angles work.
If they have evidence of being anything but frozen wasteland in the distant past, that can only mean they were somewhere else to receive the suns energy at a different distance and angle. NOT that the dinosaur faawwwwttttssssss warmed the entire globe.
What caused them to change position (weight imbalance, asteroid hit, alien nukes, bad taco bell squirts,  ) is actually irrelevant. It was long before humans and carbon dioxide hystaria.
Thats just grade-school globe-and-flashlight stuff.[This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 01-22-2023).]
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Fitz301
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JAN 23, 12:08 AM
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Speaking of farts, why is it that ONLY cow farts alledgedly contribute to "globull warming"? No other animal farts?
Cows are ruminants, meaning they chew their cud, but so are deer, bison, elk, sheep, antelope, goats, camels, llamas, etc. (you get my point), and none of these other ruminants fart? Just cows?
BS!
Why just cows? HINT: is it because we eat them most of all? It's where steaks come from, and Billy-Boy gates doesn't want us eating steaks? He may have a wittle temper tantrum...
Either that or he's only experimenting on cows and when he perfects yet another genocide bioweapon, then beef will be "what's for dinner" again.
We all know what the "elite" idiots are up to, well everybody except the ignorant sheep among us, that is.[This message has been edited by Fitz301 (edited 01-23-2023).]
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Fats
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JAN 23, 04:48 AM
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After they switch all humans to Vegetarian, our farts will surpass cows quickly.
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