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williegoat
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MAY 27, 04:57 PM
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Now, to put this thing back on track, I will repeat myself again:
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Obviously one has to be mentally ill to commit such an evil act, but here is something else to think about:
The Buffalo and Uvalde murderers were both 18 years old. From the age of 12 to 16 (think about the influences on your life during those years) America was full of hope and promise. There was world peace and a booming economy. When they were just about ready to enter adulthood, the door was slammed in their face; Covid, war, a devastated economy. |
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
These rampage killers are predominately “angry young males”.
What creates angry young males?
Two major factors are:
1) The lack of respectable adult male role models
Without a father figure, these kids look to their peers for guidance. This leads to violent youth gangs, and lost children respect the gang leaders. Read “Lord of the Flies”.
2) No coping skills
When kids never face defeat (everybody gets a trophy), we end up with “sore losers”.
Both of these problems are a direct result of ill informed, leftist policy. See LBJ’s “Great Society”.
From child psychology to gun control, the more Leftists try to fix things, the worse they get.
Here is some advice: Every time a leftist says we need fewer guns, it is the signal to buy more guns. |
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How about we face the problem instead of trying to blame a piece of hardware or an entire nation.
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rinselberg
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MAY 27, 05:25 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Why are these school massacres only occurring in the US?
Other countries have all dealt with COVID.
Other counties are facing economic uncertainty.
Other countries have politicians that segments of the population detest.
Other countries have "spoiled" youth who've never had to face corporal punishment.
Other countries have had a whole generation exposed to first-person shooter games.
Other countries have mentally sick individuals living on the streets.
Other countries have rampant drug use, both legal and otherwise.
Other countries have legalized abortion. (Only mention that bizarre point as it was brought up Here.)
So I repeat... Why are these school massacres only occurring in the US?
It's well past time to be addressing the elephant in the room... far too easy access to firearms in the US.
No, I'm not suggesting that your gun(s) be taken away... but damn, at least have the rules and regulations tightened up in regards to who can legally purchase them. |
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So, this is where Patrick first came into this thread, back on Page One.
He's not singling out the United States as any kind of "evil empire." This is where many people are "at", including many of williegoat's fellow Americans.
I don't think that changes to gun laws at either the state or national level can be the only response to this, but I do think, based on some reporting that I saw earlier today, that there could be some changes at the national level involving the systems of background checks on gun purchases, and the so called "red flag" laws and policies. Relatively small changes, overall, to the arcane and intricate (and largely unfathomable) Rube Goldberg patchwork of national and state laws, regulations, customs and practices that impinge upon the flow of firearms and perhaps even ammunition (and perhaps even bullet resistant body armor) through the body politic. (So to speak.)
Gun Safety Law Factoid: There are six states—Florida, Washington, Vermont, California, Illinois and Hawaii—that have restricted the legal purchase of those proverbial "long" guns to persons of age 21 or older.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 05-27-2022).]
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Patrick
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MAY 27, 05:28 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
How about we face the problem instead of trying to blame a piece of hardware...
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In the wrong hands, that "piece of hardware" can be catastrophic in its implementation.
You've accused me of being a "troll" more than once in this thread, of not discussing a "solution". From my very first post in this thread...
| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
No, I'm not suggesting that your gun(s) be taken away... but damn, at least have the rules and regulations tightened up in regards to who can legally purchase them.
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"Facing the problem" includes investigating certain options that some people, for personal reasons, may not be entirely comfortable doing.[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 05-27-2022).]
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Hudini
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MAY 27, 06:14 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
"Facing the problem" includes at least investigating certain options that some people, for personal reasons, may not be entirely comfortable doing.
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How about we tighten up school security everywhere? Guns are not the problem if someone is intent on harming children.
"China school attack: Man kills eight elementary children on first day of term"
https://www.mirror.co.uk/ne...-attack-man-19312796
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Patrick
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MAY 27, 06:25 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Hudini:
How about we tighten up school security everywhere? Guns are not the problem if someone is intent on harming children.
"China school attack: Man kills eight elementary children on first day of term"
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A man in China killed eight children with a meat clever, on September 3rd 2019.
China, with a population of 1.5 billion... and you had to go back almost three years to find an incident of children being killed in a school there?
Okay.
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williegoat
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MAY 27, 06:27 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Hudini:
How about we tighten up school security everywhere? Guns are not the problem if someone is intent on harming children.
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As the story is slowly coming together, this is looking more and more like the problem in the Uvalde incident.
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Wichita
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MAY 27, 07:20 PM
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 [This message has been edited by Wichita (edited 05-27-2022).]
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blackrams
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MAY 27, 08:57 PM
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What changed?
Liberals/Progressives got in power.
Nancy Pelosi doesn't like the border wall but, wants her work place and home surrounded by a wall and armed security.
Just one example.
Personal responsibility left town. It's not the tool but the mental midget using it at fault.
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Rams
Intelligent people speak because they have something to say, fools speak because they have to say something.
Consider that before telling anyone what's on your mind.
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rinselberg
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MAY 27, 10:07 PM
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I never volunteered and I wasn't drafted. But I wonder if it's at all common for people in the armed services to refer to their military rifles and sidearms as "tools."
I'm not a hunter and have never been one. On a few occasions, I've been with hunters. My memories aren't perfect, but I can't imagine that they ever referred to their deer rifles as "tools." They probably didn't ever call them "weapons", either. Just "guns", or "rifles."
Calling what became the Uvalde perpetrator's murder weapon a "tool"... that's a euphemism if there ever was one.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 05-27-2022).]
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randye
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MAY 27, 10:30 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
What changed?
Liberals/Progressives got in power.
It's not the tool but the mental midget using it at fault.
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What a coincidence of nomenclature.
Mental midgets and Leftists, (pardon the repetition), are also referred to as a "tool".[This message has been edited by randye (edited 05-27-2022).]
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