You dont have feee speech if you can be arrested for jokes. (Page 16/18) williegoat AUG 14, 12:51 PM quote Originally posted by MidEngineManiac: Friar Chicken or Friar French-Fries ? Maybe Friar mars bars ? He was quoting The Bard, but methinks the Bard had been at the bar. 82-T/A [At Work] AUG 14, 12:57 PM quote Originally posted by williegoat: He was quoting The Bard, but methinks the Bard had been at the bar. Part of being ADHD, I make random associations... I hear "Bard" and I immediately think about this fantastic game Trilogy from the 80s... The Bards Tale Among all the things I'd like to waste my time on, I would love to relieve parts of my childhood by replaying (and actually finishing) these games, as with dozens of others. There's a 4th one that just came out (which I bought), and have yet to play them. Carry on!!! I apologize for the randomness of this... williegoat AUG 14, 12:57 PM quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: A bit random, but... in much of Europe, they eat French fries with mayonnaise. Since I more or less grew up with this, I eat my fries with mayo... don't judge me, it's delicious. That is tame compared to what they do to french fries in MEM's neck of the woods. williegoat AUG 14, 01:00 PM quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Carry on!!! I apologize for the randomness of this... Randomness, free association is a welcome respite. fredtoast AUG 14, 01:06 PM Anyone who claims a jury can nullify a law please tell me the legal basis for that. I don't know what makes people think that is possible. It is crazy to claim that 12 random citizens with no legal or public policy background has MORE POWER that the elected legislature. Please cite the law that says that can happen. rinselberg AUG 14, 01:10 PM quote Originally posted by fredtoast: Anyone who claims a jury can nullify a law please tell me the legal basis for that. I don't know what makes people think that is possible. It is crazy to claim that 12 random citizens with no legal or public policy background has MORE POWER that the elected legislature. Please cite the law that says that can happen. How could there be a law against jury nullification? Sooner or later, a jury in some jurisdiction would nullify it. 82-T/A [At Work] AUG 14, 01:11 PM quote Originally posted by williegoat: That is tame compared to what they do to french fries in MEM's neck of the woods. I've had these from Tim Horton's Coffee whenever I've been in Canada... love that place. It's like cheese curds. It builds fat so you stay warm in those winters. quote Originally posted by fredtoast: Anyone who claims a jury can nullify a law please tell me the legal basis for that. I don't know what makes people think that is possible. It is crazy to claim that 12 random citizens with no legal or public policy background has MORE POWER that the elected legislature. Please cite the law that says that can happen. I've actually never heard of this either. I'm wondering if perhaps we're misunderstanding what was being conveyed. Laws are made by legislatures, and decisions (from a judge) can affirm or reject the interpretation of a law and helps set future precedence. A jury serves no other purpose than to determine guilt (as a jury of your peers) for various crimes that are defined in the penal code. And... to that point, the judge is still the one that determines sentencing... which is entirely at his/her own discretion unless the particular penal code defines a minimum (or maximum) sentencing. I'm open to being proven wrong, but this is new to me... unless I'm misunderstanding. williegoat AUG 14, 01:22 PM Jury nullification does not change the law, only the decision. The Supreme Court has addressed it several time over the last two centuries. williegoat AUG 14, 01:41 PM It's a little bit like the "He needed killin' " defense. ray b AUG 14, 02:43 PM quote Originally posted by fredtoast: Anyone who claims a jury can nullify a law please tell me the legal basis for that. I don't know what makes people think that is possible. It is crazy to claim that 12 random citizens with no legal or public policy background has MORE POWER that the elected legislature. Please cite the law that says that can happen. lawdog showing why they just can't get it the jury can rule anyway they like it is about that rare elusive idea of justice not just following the law emmit till is a very famous case of a white jury nullifying his death by local custom bad example on conservative use sure but a well known one of many in the civil rights era https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification I think it is why the jury exists and missed by law schools and wrong that it is forbidden to be known by the jury in fact want off a jury ? just ask about nullification they with throw you out quickly so the other sheep do not know of it [the jury]