Carbon dioxide hysteria (Page 150/170)
olejoedad FEB 20, 11:01 AM
A recent court case in DC exposes the fraudulent practices utilized by the climate change proponents.
And the political bias of the jurors....

https://www.realclearenergy...urtroom_1012630.html
ray b FEB 20, 05:56 PM
RWNJ's love realclear
as it is bought by the RWNJ

never mind the new record temps ever higher
just hand wave that away
olejoedad FEB 20, 07:01 PM
Heck rayb, we know that you didn't read the article.
ray b FEB 20, 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

Heck rayb, we know that you didn't read the article.



mostly a complaint about hockey sticks
little note of real temps getting higher every year
ice area shrinking and thin

standard kochies BS nothing to see here
burn more oil it will be fine

SOS got anything new different or ?

a new lie the old ones are lame tired and boring ?

the evidence mounts the con's will lose this badly
82-T/A [At Work] FEB 21, 08:24 AM

quote
Originally posted by ray b:


mostly a complaint about hockey sticks
little note of real temps getting higher every year
ice area shrinking and thin

standard kochies BS nothing to see here
burn more oil it will be fine

SOS got anything new different or ?

a new lie the old ones are lame tired and boring ?

the evidence mounts the con's will lose this badly




I'm not saying the earth isn't changing... but the past three years have had some of the coldest winters we've had in Florida in the past 10-30 years. Seems to be getting colder here. They say it's because of El Nino, and I'm not complaining... but somewhat relevant here. I just wish the summers weren't as hot.
ray b FEB 21, 10:07 AM
NO TRY AGAIN

SIGNIFICANT FLORIDA IMPACT FREEZES
Freeze Event Tallahassee Avon Park Fort Myers
December 1894 15°F 24°F 28°F
February 1899 -2°F N/A N/A
December 1934 20°F 21°F 29°F
January 1940 15°F 26°F 29°F
February 1958 19°F 23°F 30°F
December 1962 20°F 24°F 28°F
January 1977 16°F 21°F 30°F
January 1981 8°F 18°F 28°F
January 1982 14°F 19°F 29°F
December 1983 14°F 23°F 33°F
January 1985 6°F 21°F 30°F
December 1989 13°F 20°F 27°F
January 1997 18°F 24°F N/A

NO FREEZES POST 2000 ON THE LIST

WARMING
rinselberg FEB 21, 10:41 AM
January 2024 is the warmest January on record, when temperature data from all around the world and both the Northern and Southern hemispheres are reviewed.

"Global climate summary for January 2024"
NOAA Climate; February 16, 2024.
https://www.climate.gov/new...om%20January%202016.

The temperature "dominos" continue to fall.

Excerpt

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According to CCCS [European Union] and WMO [United Nations] calculations, 2023 was 1.48°C warmer than the pre-industrial period, perilously close to the 1.5°C threshold that nations agreed to respect in the 2015 Paris climate accords, with 2.0°C not to be crossed. Breaching this limit, say scientists, risks more storms, droughts, extreme heat, and flooding than humanity can safely handle.

Back in 2015, scientists thought it would be decades before we reached 1.5°C. Yet, according to CCCS data, every single day of 2023 the global average temperature was at least 1°C warmer than pre-industrial averages; half were above 1.5°C, and two days in November surpassed 2°C. NOAA’s data, which tends to be more conservative, put the 2023 average at 1.35°C above pre-industrial levels, but warned that 2024 had a one-in-three chance of hitting even higher temperatures, and a 99% chance that it would rank among the top five warmest years in human history.


"2023 Was the Hottest Year Ever and 2024 May Be Even Worse"

Aryn Baker for Time; January 12, 2024.
https://time.com/6554830/2023-hottest-year-ever/

[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 02-21-2024).]

82-T/A [At Work] FEB 21, 12:32 PM

quote
Originally posted by ray b:

NO TRY AGAIN

SIGNIFICANT FLORIDA IMPACT FREEZES
Freeze Event Tallahassee Avon Park Fort Myers
December 1894 15°F 24°F 28°F
February 1899 -2°F N/A N/A
December 1934 20°F 21°F 29°F
January 1940 15°F 26°F 29°F
February 1958 19°F 23°F 30°F
December 1962 20°F 24°F 28°F
January 1977 16°F 21°F 30°F
January 1981 8°F 18°F 28°F
January 1982 14°F 19°F 29°F
December 1983 14°F 23°F 33°F
January 1985 6°F 21°F 30°F
December 1989 13°F 20°F 27°F
January 1997 18°F 24°F N/A

NO FREEZES POST 2000 ON THE LIST

WARMING




Yes, so... what you're doing is comparing record temps, which have nothing to do with what I'm saying. I'm saying prolonged cold weather has been increasingly more prevalent in the past three years than in the past 30 years. This has been a very cool winter. What I'm NOT saying is... "We had the coldest temperature this year" ... which you are stating. Back when I lived here before I left again in 2017... the winters were short and hot. But the past three winters here in Florida have been very cold, lasting a lot longer than I'm used to.

Also... for your list... I'm not really sure where you get that information... because last year we had multiple days of freezing temperatures here in Tampa since I moved here. My neighbors all had to put blankets and bags and everything else on their plants in 2022. I was well into the 20s for several nights.

Actually, here's the first article I found: https://www.tampabay.com/we...tampa-bay-overnight/

It talks about numerous low temperature records being set in Palm Beach, Vero Beach, etc.. So again, I don't know where you're getting that information from... but it's incorrect or at best, incomplete.
ray b FEB 21, 02:05 PM
last miami freeze was 89
lots of plants die as they are rare and we notice
This page gives the lowest temperature for each year in Miami and the date that it happened. A date with a plus sign beside it means the lowest temperature also occurred on at least one other day earlier that year.

These temperature extremes were measured at Miami International Airport and go back to 1948. The lowest temperature recorded there during that period was 30 degrees Fahrenheit (-1 Celsius) on December 25, 1989 and January 22, 1985.
Lowest Miami temperatures in recent years Min °F Date Min °C
42 January 30, 2022 6
49 February 04, 2021 + 9
40 January 22, 2020 4
46 January 21, 2019 8
44 January 18, 2018 + 7
47 December 14, 2017 8
46 January 24, 2016 8
42 February 20, 2015 6
46 January 19, 2014 + 8
45 March 04, 2013 7
43 January 04, 2012 6
44 January 23, 2011 7
35 January 10, 2010 2
Lowest temperature recorded at Miami each year Min °F Date Min °C
38 February 05, 2009 3
39 January 03, 2008 4
42 February 19, 2007 6
44 February 14, 2006 7
43 January 24, 2005 6
46 December 15, 2004 8
36 January 24, 2003 2
42 January 04, 2002 6
39 January 05, 2001 4
42 December 31, 2000 6
44 January 06, 1999 7
49 March 13, 1998 + 9
37 January 19, 1997 3
37 February 05, 1996 3
39 February 09, 1995 4
50 January 06, 1994 10
44 March 15, 1993 7
46 January 16, 1992 8
41 February 16, 1991 5
49 January 13, 1990 9
30 December 25, 1989 -1
43 December 18, 1988 6
41 January 28, 1987 5
36 January 28, 1986 2
30 January 22, 1985 -1
44 March 01, 1984 + 7
33 December 26, 1983 1
33 January 12, 1982 1
32 January 13, 1981 0
32 March 03, 1980 0
40 January 03, 1979 4
39 February 23, 1978 4
31 January 20, 1977 -1
40 January 18, 1976 4
42 December 22, 1975 6
44 February 11, 1974 7
39 December 22, 1973 4
42 February 20, 1972 6
35 January 20, 1971 2
35 January 10, 1970 2
44 December 27, 1969 + 7
34 December 16, 1968 1
36 February 26, 1967 2
35 January 31, 1966 2
35 January 18, 1965 2
36 January 15, 1964 2
43 December 25, 1963 6
35 December 14, 1962 + 2
39 December 30, 1961 + 4
34 January 22, 1960 1
40 January 11, 1959 4
35 February 05, 1958 2
35 December 12, 1957 2
39 January 14, 1956 4
40 February 13, 1955 + 4
41 December 22, 1954 + 5
44 December 17, 1953 7
42 December 16, 1952 6
36 January 09, 1951 2
39 November 26, 1950 4
39 January 02, 1949 4
34 January 15, 1948 1
82-T/A [At Work] FEB 21, 03:10 PM

quote
Originally posted by ray b:

last miami freeze was 89
lots of plants die as they are rare and we notice
This page gives the lowest temperature for each year in Miami and the date that it happened. A date with a plus sign beside it means the lowest temperature also occurred on at least one other day earlier that year.

These temperature extremes were measured at Miami International Airport and go back to 1948. The lowest temperature recorded there during that period was 30 degrees Fahrenheit (-1 Celsius) on December 25, 1989 and January 22, 1985.
Lowest Miami temperatures in recent years Min °F Date Min °C




Ok... so that's Miami... what does that have to do with the post you made before this where you listed several cities and areas and said there had been no freezing temperatures since 2000? There have been several since then... including record lows that were set in December of 2022.