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BingB
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JAN 17, 05:05 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: These things need to be implemented in law, not Executive fiat through dictatorship to the agency chiefs and directors.
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Exactly. Problem is that all the legislature has time to do is investigate/impeach their political opponents and raise money for re-election. They get re-elected based on who can put on the best show more than what legislation they can actually pass.
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theBDub
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JAN 18, 06:30 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
What you're doing here is spreading misinformation... stating that Trump "had folks storm the capitol." That never happened, that was not something he asked people to do.
And as for fraudulent election, I again present you the following FACTS:
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Democrats got into the elections departments and... using COVID-19 as an excuse, wantonly violated state election laws to perform the following:
- Mass mail-in voting... in some cases, just sending out a ballot to literally everyone who was registered to vote.
- Ballot harvesting, as in... allowing people to go door to door and collect ballots on behalf of the political party.
- Ballot drop-boxes... allowing people from anywhere to be able to deliver ballots, without any verification.
- Waiving registration deadlines
- Waiving signature verification
- Waiving proof of identity verification
This allowed rampant and mass voting violations. I've gone through this whole thing before, and people say... "show me the proof, you have no proof!!!" so here it is... state Supreme Courts literally ruling that Democrats violated and illegally changed the state's election laws without the consent of the legislature. Go ahead, click the links:
Michigan:
- https://www.washingtonexami...-law-absentee-ballot
- https://www.detroitnews.com...-invalid/4699927001/
- https://trendingpolitics.co...e-ballot-order-knab/
Pennsylvania:
- https://www.cbsnews.com/pit...voting-law-decision/
- https://thefederalist.com/2...were-broken-in-2020/
Wisconsin:
- https://www.reuters.com/wor...lections-2022-07-08/
- https://www.breitbart.com/p...s-violate-state-law/
Georgia:
- https://www.gpb.org/news/20...ke-da-race-will-move
- https://thefederalist.com/2...ection-laws-in-2020/
There have been some other recent court rulings, but these are really the only ones I remember off hand. I can't remember the other states. I think maybe North Carolina, and a few others... |
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Posting the same links, that have already been discussed, over and over doesn’t actually address anything.
You responded to what I said with a mix of lies (posting Trump’s speech after hours of the capitol already being stormed) and claims that “it’s not illegal”, as I assumed.
The real answer is that you chose to support Trump, so you ignore every stark red flag he has while highlighting any yellow flag elsewhere. It’s embarrassing to pretend anything else because most people see Trump for who he is.
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randye
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JAN 18, 09:02 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by theBDub:
It’s embarrassing to pretend anything else because most people see Trump for who he is.
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"In psychology, the false consensus effect, also known as consensus bias, is a pervasive cognitive bias that causes people to "see their own behavioral choices and judgments as relatively common and appropriate to existing circumstances". In other words, they assume that their personal qualities, characteristics, beliefs, and actions are relatively widespread through the general population. This bias is especially prevalent in group settings where one thinks the collective opinion of their own group matches that of the larger population."
The real answer is that you chose to hate Trump, so you see everything he says and does as a stark red flag. It’s embarrassing to pretend anything else because "most people" see you for what you are.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 01-18-2024).]
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ray b
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JAN 18, 10:28 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
"In psychology, the false consensus effect, also known as consensus bias, is a pervasive cognitive bias that causes people to "see their own behavioral choices and judgments as relatively common and appropriate to existing circumstances". In other words, they assume that their personal qualities, characteristics, beliefs, and actions are relatively widespread through the general population. This bias is especially prevalent in group settings where one thinks the collective opinion of their own group matches that of the larger population."
The real answer is that you chose to hate Trump, so you see everything he says and does as a stark red flag. It’s embarrassing to pretend anything else because "most people" see you for what you are.
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cult spin to handwave away the leaders many flaws scams and smells
the whole world sees the rump for what it is
only cult members call 1-6 criminals tourists
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Patrick
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JAN 19, 02:42 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
the whole world sees the rump for what it is
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82-T/A [At Work]
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JAN 19, 07:38 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by theBDub:Posting the same links, that have already been discussed, over and over doesn’t actually address anything.
You responded to what I said with a mix of lies (posting Trump’s speech after hours of the capitol already being stormed) and claims that “it’s not illegal”, as I assumed.
The real answer is that you chose to support Trump, so you ignore every stark red flag he has while highlighting any yellow flag elsewhere. It’s embarrassing to pretend anything else because most people see Trump for who he is. |
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I don't get caught up in the emotion like you do. I see Trump as a vehicle for significant change... and that's the kind of change I'm looking for.
Securing the border, keeping taxes low, and significantly reducing regulation and central government power.
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olejoedad
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JAN 19, 09:41 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
the quote by the rump was issued LATE AFTER JOE ASKED AT 4:15
THE 1-6 MORNING SPEECH TRUMP SAID
''And Rudy, you did a great job. He's got guts. You know what? He's got guts, unlike a lot of people in the Republican Party. He's got guts. He fights, he fights.
And I'll tell you. Thank you very much, John. Fantastic job. I watched. That's a tough act to follow, those two. John is one of the most brilliant lawyers in the country, and he looked at this and he said, "What an absolute disgrace that this can be happening to our Constitution."
And he looked at Mike Pence, and I hope Mike is going to do the right thing. I hope so. I hope so.
Because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election. All he has to do, all this is, this is from the number one, or certainly one of the top, Constitutional lawyers in our country. He has the absolute right to do it. We're supposed to protect our country, support our country, support our Constitution, and protect our constitution.
States want to revote. The states got defrauded. They were given false information. They voted on it. Now they want to recertify. They want it back. All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people.
And I actually, I just spoke to Mike. I said: "Mike, that doesn't take courage. What takes courage is to do nothing. That takes courage." And then we're stuck with a president who lost the election by a lot and we have to live with that for four more years. We're just not going to let that happen.
But you know, you know, when you see this and when you see what's happening. Number one, they all say, "Sir, we'll never let it happen again." I said, "That's good. But what about eight weeks ago?" You know they try and get you to go.
They said, "Sir, in four years, you're guaranteed." I said: "I'm not interested right now. Do me a favor, go back eight weeks. I want to go back eight weeks. Let's go back eight weeks."
We want to go back and we want to get this right because we're going to have somebody in there that should not be in there and our country will be destroyed and we're not going to stand for that.
For years, Democrats have gotten away with election fraud and weak Republicans. And that's what they are. There's so many weak Republicans. And we have great ones. Jim Jordan and some of these guys, they're out there fighting. The House guys are fighting. But it's, it's incredible.
Many of the Republicans, I helped them get in, I helped them get elected. I helped Mitch get elected. I helped. I could name 24 of them, let's say, I won't bore you with it. And then all of a sudden you have something like this. It's like, "Oh gee, maybe I'll talk to the president sometime later." No, it's amazing.
They're weak Republicans, they're pathetic Republicans and that's what happens.
But this year, using the pretext of the China virus and the scam of mail-in ballots, Democrats attempted the most brazen and outrageous election theft and there's never been anything like this. So pure theft in American history. Everybody knows it.
That election, our election was over at 10 o'clock in the evening. We're leading Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia, by hundreds of thousands of votes.
And then late in the evening, or early in the morning, boom, these explosions of bull****.
And all of a sudden. All of a sudden it started to happen.
(Audience chants: "Bull****.")
Now, it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. And after this, we're going to walk down, and I'll be there with you, we're going to walk down, we're going to walk down.
Anyone you want, but I think right here, we're going to walk down to the Capitol, and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them.
Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated.
I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.
Today we will see whether Republicans stand strong for integrity of our elections. But whether or not they stand strong for our country, our country. Our country has been under siege for a long time. Far longer than this four-year period. We've set it on a much greater course. So much, and we, I thought, you know, four more years. I thought it would be easy.''
THAT IS THE KEY SPEECH
THE CRIME
THE PLOT and PLAN |
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Only in your own mind.
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ray b
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JAN 19, 10:57 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
Only in your own mind.
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and the small minds who follow the rump
and who tryed and failed on 1-6 to stop the government
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olejoedad
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JAN 19, 12:57 PM
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rinselberg
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JAN 19, 01:13 PM
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Eric Holder may have said that, or something very similar, but he's not the first name that comes to mind in association with that quote—I think of Rahm Emanuel, or before that, Saul Alinsky. I doubt that either of them were actually the first to say that, but the credit hinges upon who gets written up in the media for having said it.
Is there a tradition of distinguishing between "Never let a crisis go to waste," and "Never let a serious crisis go to waste."..?
Eric Holder, I'm sure, goes with the common convention of capitalizing the first letter of his first and last names.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-19-2024).]
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