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williegoat
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MAY 27, 12:15 PM
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I'll make you a deal: We'll keep the guns on our side if you keep poutine and Justin Bieber on your side.
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Hudini
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MAY 27, 12:43 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by RandomTask:
"We care about all children!"
"Except these ones 'cause I want my guns!"
Just admit that these kids lives are an acceptable cost to you so that you can continue to own AR style rifles.
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63 million abortions. You want to talk about kids lives? Let's talk son.
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RandomTask
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MAY 27, 12:53 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
63 MILLION babies aborted.
No child should be denied growing up.
No child should be denied a loving family.
Guns aren't the problem here.
People that make immoral choices are the problem. |
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Fascinating. I challenged any of you to own it; you want guns as prolific as possible in our culture. Not one of you is able to accept and own up to the fact that this is part of the cost for this and it is being paid with multiple school shootings. Rather, it's a bunch of hand waving whataboutism.
Do I need to dig up a thread on illegal immigrants/building a wall/etc? It's estimated illegals kill 2200 people a year in the US. You're not allowed to complain about that until the abortion issue is 'fixed' by your "logic".
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RandomTask
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MAY 27, 12:55 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Hudini:
63 million abortions. You want to talk about kids lives? Let's talk son. |
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Fine. You can't complain about illegals until the abortion issue is "fixed" by your "logic".
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theBDub
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MAY 27, 01:13 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 2.5:
What would replace "shootings"?
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Probably something less deadly with quick bursts.
| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
I see the first two paragraphs as contradictory.
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In my first paragraph, I'm saying we shouldn't pretend that the issue is simply that guns are around more in America than other countries. In my second paragraph, I'm saying access to guns does meaningfully increase mass homicides.
They aren't contradictory. Access to guns isn't the only issue, but cutting out guns would likely care for a lot of these cases. It just doesn't fully answer what's going on. And to be clear, I don't have an answer or super strong opinion. The strongest opinion I have is that we have personal property rights that include the right to own and bear arms.
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olejoedad
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MAY 27, 01:29 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by RandomTask:
Fascinating. I challenged any of you to own it; you want guns as prolific as possible in our culture. Not one of you is able to accept and own up to the fact that this is part of the cost for this and it is being paid with multiple school shootings. Rather, it's a bunch of hand waving whataboutism.
Do I need to dig up a thread on illegal immigrants/building a wall/etc? It's estimated illegals kill 2200 people a year in the US. You're not allowed to complain about that until the abortion issue is 'fixed' by your "logic".
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You missed the point.
Reread the last sentence in my post.
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jdv
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MAY 27, 01:59 PM
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I ask this question to all that want to ban assault weapons. What is the difference between a mini 14, an AR 15 and a M 16?
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MidEngineManiac
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MAY 27, 02:50 PM
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williegoat
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MAY 27, 02:52 PM
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The same people keep shouting: Gun Control! Socialism!
We keep saying: Look at the Soviets. Look at the Nazis.
They keep saying: But we are so much smarter.
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MidEngineManiac
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MAY 27, 03:08 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
It partly comes down to the potential for a shooter to fire more bullets in a given period of time, by taking advantage of the convenience of detachable magazines, and the capacity to accept larger-sized magazines that could distinguish an AR-style version from the traditional version of an otherwise similar semiautomatic rifle. But the devil is in the details, since "AR-style" and "traditional" are not exact descriptions of how a semiautomatic rifle breaks down, in terms of how it can be loaded and reloaded.
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Ya think so ????
Let me give you a real-world present-day example of the liberal mindset. (I know, different country and target not hunting guns, but still guns).
You have heard of TruDUMB going after and banning airsoft and air guns up here ???? (and keep in mind these are only dangerous to squirrels and rabbits, empty beer cans and kids eyes at Christmas  )
I personally own these 3 (among others)
https://www.crosman.com/pro...matic-pump-air-rifle
https://www.airgundepot.com/crosman-fire.html
https://shopruger.com/Ruger...e/productinfo/17820/
The top one is pump-action, with a 5 (or 10) round slide clip. With practice you can do 10 pumps, **** it, slide over the clip, chamber the pellet, and re-shoulder it in about 30 seconds. 2 a minute.
The second is a break-barrel. Much quicker, 4-5 a minute with practice, and at least 3 without.
Third one is semi-auto. Uses a 10 round rotary clip and is powered by a 12 gram CO2 cartridge. 20 a minute is no problem, 30 with practice. It is a matter of just change magazines.
All 3 will hold the same optics/accessories.
ALL 3 have EXACTLY the same performance as limited by law up here (495 FPS) (which is a joke but that's a different subject)
Of the 3, GUESS which one the dipshit is wanting to ban ???????
The slowest one. 
Tell me again how it's not based on looks.
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