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williegoat MAY 17, 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

In 1964.

Interesting fact.....the Civil Rights Act passed with more GOP than Democratic Party votes in 1964. Like 1964 was just the other day. Like nothing much has changed with the GOP and the Democratic parties since 1964.

But why stop at 1964? Why not go all the way back with the Democrats to Jim Crow, and before that, the Civil War? That was only the week before last week, the way certain drooling© "Reich-wing" morons like to talk about it. (But none that I would have the misfortune to be personally acquainted with.)



I don't understand your point. How does it relate to voter fraud?
rinselberg MAY 17, 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:
I don't understand your point. How does it relate to voter fraud?


That would be a good question for "olejoedad", since he's the one who went there.

Just scroll back until you find the last thing he said.

Edit to add: Now I see he was responding to something you said. About slavery.

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williegoat MAY 17, 06:31 PM
I understood what olejoedad said. I mentioned slavery as an example of a strong centralized government, which had been suggested as a solution to election fraud.

Rayb responded with:

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BUT THE AREAS WITH A HISTORY OF SLAVERY

were in my lifetime still mistreating people with evil local rules and traditional ''morals''
I donot think Az has a good record with Indian rights ether

but the nut-conned favor evil locals over fictional wrongs by a federal government
I like to attack local wrongs as they are far eazyer to reach and tend to be real not myths

yet when the nut-con's see a real free person
they tend to attack them or try to set cops and laws on them

I have seen that happen far too often for my liking


This makes no sense, with regard to the topic, and was simply a hackneyed attempt at deflection and demonization.

Now you post:

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In 1964.

Interesting fact.....the Civil Rights Act passed with more GOP than Democratic Party votes in 1964. Like 1964 was just the other day. Like nothing much has changed with the GOP and the Democratic parties since 1964.

But why stop at 1964? Why not go all the way back with the Democrats to Jim Crow, and before that, the Civil War? That was only the week before last week, the way certain drooling© "Reich-wing" morons like to talk about it. (But none that I would have the misfortune to be personally acquainted with.)



I still don’t understand. You and Rayb become less coherent as time goes by. Either it is by design or perhaps an attempt to emulate our current president.

By the way, 1964 was the year of the Tonkin Gulf “incident”, another LBJ disaster.

Tell the people what they've won, Vanna! The hits just keep on coming!

Try to keep up.
Hudini MAY 17, 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:


every state gets to make up rules
that is a part of the problem no standards
and no it is not illegal everywhere to move ballots for others
yes someplaces it is
others it is not or there are other restrictions on who can or can not hand in a ballot
to a box or mail box or drop box




Ballot harvesting is illegal because of the ways it might be abused. If I offer $50 for every ballot filled out for my candidate then the whole system collapses as I am buying your vote. But it doesn't have to be a direct payment, it might just be me visiting the old folks home and getting all the people to sign a ballot. The whole system depends on those who wish to participate in democracy to get off their ass and vote. If we cannot trust the system, we cannot trust the results.
randye MAY 17, 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:


every state gets to make up rules

that is a part of the problem







NO

That is not "part of the problem".

That is part of the United States Constitution.
Specifically Article 1, Section 4.

Among the many reasons that you lunatic Leftists believe the crazy and bizarre things that you do are:
A.) Your complete unfamiliarity with, and immense resentment for, the United States Constitution and...
B.) Your absence of any coherent knowledge of even the most basic concepts of American civics and...
C.) Owing to both A and B, your slavish devotion to insane, failed, beliefs and ideologies such as statist socialism and outright Marxism.

Leftists gotta Leftist

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olejoedad MAY 17, 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:


BUT THE AREAS WITH A HISTORY OF SLAVERY

were in my lifetime still mistreating people with evil local rules and traditional ''morals''
I donot think Az has a good record with Indian rights ether

but the nut-conned favor evil locals over fictional wrongs by a federal government
I like to attack local wrongs as they are far eazyer to reach and tend to be real not myths

yet when the nut-con's see a real free person
they tend to attack them or try to set cops and laws on them

I have seen that happen far too often for my liking




To my Liberal friend on the Left Coast.....

I was responding to someone else.
ray b MAY 18, 10:21 AM
we had the nut-con's favorite form of weak government to start with

it was call the articles of CON-federation like most con ideas it FAILED

SO WE GOT MARK II GOVERNMENT our current version after 20+ minor revisions to date
olejoedad MAY 18, 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by ray b:

we had the nut-con's favorite form of weak government to start with

it was call the articles of CON-federation like most con ideas it FAILED

SO WE GOT MARK II GOVERNMENT our current version after 20+ minor revisions to date



You've got that 180° out of reality.

Color me surprised.
ray b MAY 18, 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:


You've got that 180° out of reality.

Color me surprised.



how

why

do you really understand what the article's were
they were a weak gov just what our con's say they want NOW
except to jail or kill people ban stuff and have a strong military
to do stuff like the abortion laws they want ie NO CHOICE

I think you and randy are the ones 180 out
olejoedad MAY 18, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:


how

why

do you really understand what the article's were
they were a weak gov just what our con's say they want NOW
except to jail or kill people ban stuff and have a strong military
to do stuff like the abortion laws they want ie NO CHOICE

I think you and randy are the ones 180 out



I'm sure you believe everything you post here.

Posting historical facts in response to your claims has no effect on your beliefs, so I'm not going to waste my time.

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