Carbon dioxide hysteria (Page 132/170)
ray b DEC 18, 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by cliffw:


Exploitation. he he he.

Return on investment.



YES THERE IS A BIG INVESTMENT

IN CORP-RAT SHILLS

BY THE COAL OIL AND GAS CORP-RATS

HOW MUCH DO YOU EARN FROM THEM ?
williegoat DEC 18, 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:

FOLLOW THE MONEY
NON OF THESE NUTS DO IT FOR FREE
THEY ARE ALL WELL PAID



cliffw DEC 18, 01:46 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:
In 2010, Scientific American reporter Michael Lemonick questioned Judith Curry about potential conflicts of interest. She responded:12

“I do receive some funding from the fossil fuel industry. My company…does [short-term] hurricane forecasting…for an oil company, since 2007. During this period I have been both a strong advocate for the IPCC, and more recently a critic of the IPCC, there is no correlation of this funding with my public statements.”


OIL AND GAS MONEY PAYS HER BILLS
EVER ANTI-WARMING NUT IS PAID BY OIL GAS PR COAL CORP-RATS

FOLLOW THE MONEY
NON OF THESE NUTS DO IT FOR FREE
THEY ARE ALL WELL PAID



Heh. She said her company receive SOME funding.


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Originally posted by ray b:
SHE QUIT GA TECK



You can not structure a sentence.


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Originally posted by ray b:
YES THERE IS A BIG INVESTMENT

IN CORP-RAT SHILLS

BY THE COAL OIL AND GAS CORP-RATS

HOW MUCH DO YOU EARN FROM THEM ?



How much do you owe them ?
rinselberg DEC 18, 04:15 PM

Oh look... the latest meme posted by Wichita has just been singled out for its stupidity.

Meme posted by Wichita gets the "FactCheck" treatment from Saranac "just call me 'Sara'" Spencer

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One meme that’s been widely shared for months tries to cast doubt on the reality of climate change by suggesting that the Swedish environmental activist Greta Thunberg gets an unfair proportion of media coverage compared with Judith Curry, a climatologist who is popular among those who believe climate change is a “hoax.”

The social media post shows side-by-side photos of the two women and compares Thunberg’s credentials and message to Curry’s, noting that Curry has published scientific papers and claiming that she “says it’s all a hoax.” The meme says that Thunberg “gets 24/7 media coverage” while Curry “gets no media coverage” and concludes, “This is what media manipulation looks like.”

But the meme overstates Curry’s position on climate change and, more importantly, sets up a false comparison between the two in order to give the impression that climate change isn’t happening.

“Comparing media coverage of Greta Thunberg versus Judith Curry is like comparing apples to oranges,” John Cook, an expert in climate science communication, told us in an email. “Greta Thunberg is an environmentalist and typically media coverage about her focuses on the broader movement for climate action. Judith Curry is a scientist whose views are out of step with the mainstream climate science community.”

The evidence of climate change has led to consensus among climate scientists that the phenomenon is happening and is driven by human activity—primarily the burning of fossil fuels, which produce heat-trapping gases such as carbon dioxide that increase temperatures.

“The industrial activities that our modern civilization depends upon have raised atmospheric carbon dioxide levels by nearly 50% since 1750,” NASA has explained on its website. “This increase is due to human activities, because scientists can see a distinctive isotopic fingerprint in the atmosphere.”

“What is the appropriate way for the media to cover contrarian scientists?” Cook said. “My research has found that it’s misleading for journalists to give equal weight between mainstream climate scientists and contrarian scientists because it gives the false impression of a 50:50 debate among the scientific community.

“Instead, we recommend in the Consensus Handbook that when airing contrarian viewpoints, they also communicate the weight of evidence or weight of experts,” said Cook, a co-author of the handbook with other researchers at the Center for Climate Change Communication.

So, any lack of coverage for Curry in the news isn’t evidence of a cover-up but, rather, in keeping with best practices for reporting on the issue. It’s also worth mentioning that she gets a fair bit of coverage from conservative media, including Fox News and the New York Post.

As for Curry’s position on climate change—she doesn’t deny that it’s happening. Or that humans have contributed. She argues that natural climate variability is also a major contributing factor and that measures to stanch climate change are likely to be ineffective, which is where she falls out of line with most other scientists.

“I have never said that climate change is a hoax,” Curry told us in an email. “The earth’s climate has been changing for the past 4.6 billion years.”

“Climate change is a geological fact. What is causing the change for the past century is a different issue. Humans are contributing to the recent climate change, but there has also been natural climate variability/change,” Curry said.

But, as we said, that view is out of step with most other climate scientists, who have found that the temperature increases cannot be explained by natural climate fluctuations.

So, the meme is wrong about Curry’s position on the issue, and wrong in its implication that climate change isn’t happening, and the media is covering it up.


That comes with a "side" of footnotes:

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Sources

Cook, John. Senior research fellow with the Melbourne Centre for Behaviour Change at the University of Melbourne. Email exchange with FactCheck.org. 6 Dec 2023.

NASA. “Scientific Consensus: Earth’s Climate Is Warming.” Accessed 5 Dec 2023.

NASA. “The Causes of Climate Change.” Accessed 5 Dec 2023.

Curry, Judith. President of Climate Forecast Applications Network. Email exchange with FactCheck.org. 8 Dec 2023.


"Meme Makes Misleading Comparison to Cast Doubt on Climate Change"
Saranac Hale Spencer for FactCheck(.org); December 8, 2023.
https://www.factcheck.org/2...t-on-climate-change/



Wichita is nothing if not timely.

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cliffw DEC 18, 06:58 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:
Oh look... the latest meme posted by Wichita has just been singled out for its stupidity.



Singled out by who ?

Your dribble equates to ...


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Originally posted by rinselberg:
rinselberg agrees with rinselberg.

rinselberg DEC 19, 12:56 AM

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Originally posted by cliffw:
Singled out by who?


The meme that Wichita posted, which juxtaposes Greta Thunberg with Judith Curry, was scrutinized in a column that was published just 10 days ago, on December 8, 2023, on FactCheck(.org), and credited to FactCheck staff writer Saranac Hale Spencer.

I said as much in my previous post.

So the answer to your question of "Singled out by who?" is "Singled out by FactCheck(.org), in the person of staff writer Saranac Hale Spencer."

Do you have a question about the answer to your question?

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cliffw DEC 19, 06:55 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:
The meme that Wichita posted, which juxtaposes Greta Thunberg with Judith Curry, was scrutinized in a column that was published just 10 days ago, on December 8, 2023, on FactCheck(.org), and credited to FactCheck staff writer Saranac Hale Spencer.



Of course. More biased sources.


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Originally posted by rinselberg:
Do you have a question about the answer to your question?



Why yes. Yes I do. Why don't your 'opinion' pundits debate the content of what Judith Curry alleges ?
ray b DEC 19, 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by cliffw:


Why yes. Yes I do. Why don't your 'opinion' pundits debate the content of what Judith Curry alleges ?



BECAUSE THEY DID AND SHE IS A PAID SHILL

who repeats the oil corp-rats BS

but your guys were tooo busy screaming NO NO NO
to hear or understand any discussion
rinselberg DEC 19, 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by cliffw:
Why don't your 'opinion' pundits debate the content of what Judith Curry alleges?


I'm thinking that there is room for improvement on this score.

From cliffw's lips to Rashida Jones' ears (so to speak.)

I suggest looking to print media—like the New York Times and Washington Post—for a more complete treatment of "Climate" than that which an MSNBC television broadcast is likely to provide.

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Raydar DEC 19, 10:24 AM

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Originally posted by ray b:

...AND SHE IS A PAID SHILL




And all the "gloom-and-doom" scientists are not?! Riiiight.

Scientists know which side of their bread is buttered, and by whom. Their research grants are designed to produce a desired result, i.e., "We're all gonna die."
Come up with a different result, and you are possibly sleeping in your car.

They made out like bandits with Greta. All they had to do was put a script and a microphone in front of her face, and tell her to "sing". The term "useful idiot" was created for her. Just another teen-age know-it-all, who has found her "niche" - and what will continue to butter her bread. (I wonder how much she's worth at this point.)
And yeah... I've heard it said that she was "on the spectrum". Has nothing to do with that.

Greta and David Hogg ought to hook up, and keep each other busy for a while, and leave us all the hell alone. Assuming they both swing in that direction, which is possibly debatable.