Biden to ban gas stoves (Page 12/13)
rinselberg JUN 05, 03:59 AM

"Men must abolish gas stoves, before gas stoves abolish mankind."
Patrick JUN 05, 04:34 AM
cliffw JUN 05, 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:
I suspect a few asbestos miners are still kicking as well. There are always exceptions to the rule.

I would argue that "the idiots" are the ones who pay good money to voluntarily suck known carcinogens into their lungs. Absolute madness!



Hmmm ... .

I can almost give you both of them.

Your first comment, good, might not be factual. Do the numbers reflect the amount of dead asbestos are the rule, or the exception ?

You second comment, very good, sucking known carcinogens into their lungs is not the only threat. Though again, which is the exception, which is the rule ?
rinselberg JUN 06, 02:11 AM
Read any good cigarettes lately?

"Every Canadian cigarette will soon carry a health warning"
Nadine Yousif for BBC News, Toronto; June 1, 2023.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65755793

Not just every pack, but each and every cigarette.

The article begins with a photo (or realistic artwork) of how cigarettes sold legally in Canada will soon begin to look.
Fats JUN 09, 05:36 AM

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Originally posted by jdv:

In a enclosed warehouse what type of forklift do they use? Why is this?




It depends. I've been in warehouses filled with propane forklifts. I've also been in warehouses filled with electric. Most use a mixture of gas and electric.

As far as what companies use what, it all comes down to either money or regulation. None of it is chosen because of a negative or positive effect on the workers lives.
williegoat JUN 09, 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by Fats:


It depends. I've been in warehouses filled with propane forklifts. I've also been in warehouses filled with electric. Most use a mixture of gas and electric.

As far as what companies use what, it all comes down to either money or regulation. None of it is chosen because of a negative or positive effect on the workers lives.


When I was a driver, which was in the previous century, battery technology wasn't where it is now. Batteries were lead-acid and were only used on very small machines, mostly under 2,000 lb capacity. Bigger electric machines existed, but were few and far between.

Lead acid forklifts stink, and probably cause more health issues than Propane/LPG.

The biggest forklift I ever drove was a 22,000 lb Cat with a 3208. The smallest was a 5,000 lb Hyster with a propane GM straight six.
82-T/A [At Work] JUN 09, 10:01 AM
This isn't about saving the environment... this is about CONTROL.

Nearly every country has some form or access to oil on their own land, and refining it isn't rocket science.

There is a very limited source of rare-Earth elements that can be used to make the batteries needed, most of these mines are owned by China.

"Energy" will make or break a country both economically, and in war time.

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I can't make it any more simple than this...
rinselberg JUN 09, 11:29 AM
... or more misleading.

[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 06-09-2023).]

82-T/A [At Work] JUN 09, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

... or more misleading.





By default, it seems you blindly accept anything and everything the left tells you, but you immediately reject everything the right tells you.

Everything that's going on right now is about control:

1 - the constant attack on gun ownership to remove guns from the populace so they will not be a threat
2 - the completely open borders intended to overwhelm the system
3 - Eliminate energy options for the sole purpose of having a single choke-point and means of control

... list goes on. Those pulling the strings want to have control, and they can ONLY do that by controlling the United States. They can ONLY control the United States by limiting the power of the citizenry, and the ability for them to operate autonomously.

Seriously Rinse... your assumption that I'm being misleading is so out there. Do you really think of ALL the things the Democrats could pick that would help the environment right now, that gas stoves are actually important?
williegoat JUN 09, 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

By default, it seems you blindly accept anything and everything the left tells you, but you immediately reject everything the right tells you.



That is the hallmark of the rank and file of the New American Left. It is a “lifestyle”, a faith, a religion. Opinion is sacrilege, dissension is blasphemy. Individuality is grounds for excommunication.

The scarlet letter is an “R”.