quote Originally posted by rinselberg: Is that what they said on OAN? That "99% of the US... has no idea this happened, since it likely wasn't covered at all on any of the talk shows, or nightly news casts outside of OAN." I remember some of the coverage on MSNBC. Like the shutdown of the Apple Daily newspaper, which had been "big" in Hong Kong.

I wouldn't quote me for statistical accuracy... but the majority of the country does not know who the Vice President of the United States is...

So, that all future elections in Hong Kong will only be CCP candidates, I would posture that definitely fewer than 10% of America knows this. It saw little time on the nightly news. We can all link to articles of course, but that doesn't mean that everyone knows about it. For me, I think it's a pretty catastrophic situation for Hong Kong... it effectively means absorption back into Chinese rule is complete. A point of no-return, for that matter... in my opinion.

I think it was likely not talked about much because:

1 - It might make Biden look bad since he didn't do anything about it (but again, what would WE do? and... Trump didn't do much about it either)
2 - No one cares.

quote Originally posted by maryjane: There were a couple of pictures of Bahia Hond´a when I was at Guantanamo. It was my understanding, that it was a rough coaling station for US ships that were going to enter the Gulf of Mexico from down off the Mexican coast and there was very little developed. The US kept it only about 10-15 years. By the 60s, it was again of interest to the US Navy but for a different reason. Bahia Honda was the location of one of the Soviet SAM sites. It would have also been one of the planned invasion points if the US had to invade Cuba to get rid of the Soviet missiles. An interesting time and I remember it well. Hawks and Nikes stood guard openly, in the Everglades and on Fla beaches.

That is pretty cool. It makes sense that Russia would use that same site (after we abandoned it) simply because it likely had strategic advantage... probably was already "prepped" by our ARMY CoEs, etc. I look at a site like Bagram Air Base... originally built by the Untied States in the 70s for the Afghan Army, then owned by the Russians, then owned by the Mujahideen, then by the Northern Alliance, then the Taliban, then the United States, and then... the Taliban again. I just really get a kick out of the history of military bases.


You'd probably know what this is since you spent time in Florida back in the day.

In Fort Lauderdale, specifically the area around Davie and Plantation, there's an old ARMY? Air Field (from what I understand). It's now the site of NOVA South Eastern University and the Miami Dolphins Training Camp (though I think they gave it back). The old runway has been completely removed, and there's tons of buildings now in place of it. HOWEVER... there's part of it that is still Broward-county owned, and it's the location of the local "Extension Office" (which I'm sure you know what that is). They own maybe 10 acres of land behind it, and a huge area of the land is paved / concrete... it's basically remnants of the old air field that's still in use there... it's pretty cool. There's even some old military hardware (scrap metal) that was there about a decade ago before the area got a little overgrown. Don't know if it's still there.

Here it is... you can just make out what's left of the runway, and it's basically just a parking lot now:

https://www.google.com/maps...6.082224,-80.2413207




EDIT: Just looked it up!!! It's the site of the old NAS Fort Lauderdale!

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