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cliffw
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FEB 18, 11:26 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
Why just two democrat cities. Why not all cities including both Republican or Democrat. |
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Post two Republican cities ![This message has been edited by cliffw (edited 02-18-2024).]
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BingB
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FEB 18, 01:16 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I've posted numerous links that defiantly and definitively state that crime is committed overwhelmingly by those who lean left or are in fact actually registered Democrat.
For most here, they can see you simply don't like what's being presented because it goes against your narrative. Sorry... this is a "you" problem, not a me problem. Take care. |
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And I have also posted numerous slinks that prove that the relationship is just a correlation with no element of causation i.e., the areas with the lowest crime rate in the nation are controlled by dmeocrats.
The fact that you still do not understand the difference between "corelation" and "causation" is a "you" problem.
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BingB
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FEB 18, 01:48 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
Post two Republican cities !
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All of these are among the 100 Largest cities in the country
The overall crime rate in Fort Worth is 39.49% above the national average.
Fort Worth ranks #8,390 safest out of 9,869 cities in the United States.
The overall crime rate in Dallas is 97.53% above the national average.
Dallas ranks #9,259 safest out of 9,869 cities in the United States.
The overall crime rate in Oklahoma City is 59.25% above the national average.
Oklahoma City ranks #8,749 safest out of 9,869 cities in the United States.
The overall crime rate in Fresno is 85.63% above the national average.
Fresno ranks #9,134 safest out of 9,869 cities in the United States.
The overall crime rate in Omaha is 73.37% above the national average.
Omaha ranks #8,979 safest out of 9,869 cities in the United States.
The overall crime rate in Miami is 42.22% above the national average.
Miami ranks #8,442 safest out of 9,869 cities in the United States.
The overall crime rate in Tulsa is 123.79% above the national average.
Tulsa ranks #9,452 safest out of 9,869 cities in the United States.
The overall crime rate in Bakersfield is 94.42% above the national average.
Bakersfield ranks #9,228 safest out of 9,869 cities in the United States.
The overall crime rate in Aurora is 128.33% above the national average.
Aurora ranks #9,474 safest out of 9,869 cities in the United States.
The overall crime rate in Lexington is 28.48% above the national average.
Lexington ranks #8,119 safest out of 9,869 cities in the United States.
The overall crime rate in Stockton is 67.85% above the national average.
Stockton ranks #8,889 safest out of 9,869 cities in the United States.
The overall crime rate in Anchorage is 68.43% above the national average.
Anchorage ranks #8,904 safest out of 9,869 cities in the United States.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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FEB 18, 03:12 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
All of these are among the 100 Largest cities in the country
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Again, random post without any real context, or point. Comparing cities that have a population of 50 people like Brookfield, MO that have no crime because no one lives there, to other cities.
Democrat cities have gone up in crime, Republican cities have gone down in crime.
Democrats don't enforce the laws, Republicans do. Democrats commit most of the crime, Republicans do not.
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BingB
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FEB 19, 09:19 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Democrat cities have gone up in crime, Republican cities have gone down in crime. |
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This just is not true at all. You can't just make stuff up in your head and claim it is true. Crime is going down EVERYWHERE. Even in Democrat controlled cities.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/n...ceptions/ar-BB1icUXb
"Data from law enforcement across the United States paints a different picture for 2023. Key indicators show that the nation is experiencing a significant decline in violent crimes, including a marked reduction in homicides.
The statistics are particularly striking in America’s largest cities. New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, and Phoenix have each reported homicide rates falling by more than 10%. The FBI’s preliminary data covering January to September of 2023 indicates an 8.2% drop in violent crime nationwide, with a sharp 15.6% decrease in murders."
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82-T/A [At Work]
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FEB 19, 09:33 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
This just is not true at all. You can't just make stuff up in your head and claim it is true. Crime is going down EVERYWHERE. Even in Democrat controlled cities.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/n...ceptions/ar-BB1icUXb
"Data from law enforcement across the United States paints a different picture for 2023. Key indicators show that the nation is experiencing a significant decline in violent crimes, including a marked reduction in homicides.
The statistics are particularly striking in America’s largest cities. New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, and Phoenix have each reported homicide rates falling by more than 10%. The FBI’s preliminary data covering January to September of 2023 indicates an 8.2% drop in violent crime nationwide, with a sharp 15.6% decrease in murders."
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Once again... you reference violent crime, and then say "all crime is going down everywhere." This is not true... retail theft, carjackings, etc., are through the roof... mostly in Democrat-controlled areas. You continue to do this. Like I said, you take one thing, and then make it the centerpoint of your argument and try to conflate everything else to it as if you maybe think everyone else is too stupid to know any better. And even beyond that, you then take national stats for 1 year, which include Republican efforts, when I've clearly shown you that Democrat cities have actually had an increase in violent crime. You completely misrepresent stuff... I've called this out numerous times with your continuing to send shoddy links about "violent crime in 2023" ignoring the fact that we're talking about ALL crime (even though you say all crime) and then completely forgetting that crime in 2021 and 2022 was record-breaking. Yes... eventually a fire burns out.,.. that does not mean the fire never happened.
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BingB
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FEB 19, 10:01 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I've clearly shown you that Democrat cities have actually had an increase in violent crime. |
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No. You have not shown that at all. In fact I just posted a link that proves what I am saying is 100% true. The rate of violent crimes is dropping everywhere including cities controlled by Democrats.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/n...ceptions/ar-BB1icUXb
"Data from law enforcement across the United States paints a different picture for 2023. Key indicators show that the nation is experiencing a significant decline in violent crimes, including a marked reduction in homicides.
The statistics are particularly striking in America’s largest cities. New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, and Phoenix have each reported homicide rates falling by more than 10%. The FBI’s preliminary data covering January to September of 2023 indicates an 8.2% drop in violent crime nationwide, with a sharp 15.6% decrease in murders."
As for car thefts, the city with the biggest drop in auto theft rate for 2023 was St Paul Minnesota which is controlled by democrats. I am not saying that party affiliation had anything to do with it, but it disproves your claim that crime is going up in democrat controlled cities.
You have basically just posted anecdotal evidence from a couple of hand picked cities. I have cited studies that cover multiple cities.[This message has been edited by BingB (edited 02-19-2024).]
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82-T/A [At Work]
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FEB 19, 10:20 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
No. You have not shown that at all. In fact I just posted a link that proves what I am saying is 100% true. The rate of violent crimes is dropping everywhere including cities controlled by Democrats.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/n...ceptions/ar-BB1icUXb
"Data from law enforcement across the United States paints a different picture for 2023. Key indicators show that the nation is experiencing a significant decline in violent crimes, including a marked reduction in homicides.
The statistics are particularly striking in America’s largest cities. New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, and Phoenix have each reported homicide rates falling by more than 10%. The FBI’s preliminary data covering January to September of 2023 indicates an 8.2% drop in violent crime nationwide, with a sharp 15.6% decrease in murders."
As for car thefts, the city with the biggest drop in auto theft rate for 2023 was St Paul Minnesota which is controlled by democrats. I am not saying that party affiliation had anything to do with it, but it disproves your claim that crime is going up in democrat controlled cities.
You have basically just posted anecdotal evidence from a couple of hand picked cities. I have cited studies that cover multiple cities.
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Once again... misrepresenting facts. Either you're borderline retarded, in which case I apologize and I'm impressed, or you are intentionally misrepresenting. Either way, I'm done responding. For the 6 people that post in this forum, you continue to do "your job," for the three people who support you.
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BingB
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FEB 19, 10:45 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Once again... misrepresenting facts. Either you're borderline retarded, in which case I apologize and I'm impressed, or you are intentionally misrepresenting. Either way, I'm done responding. For the 6 people that post in this forum, you continue to do "your job," for the three people who support you. |
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I am not misrepresenting anything. I will state the facts as simply as possible. If I am wrong then post some proof. And "proof" does not mean random anecdotal evidence from one or two cities.
1. Crime is higher in cities that in rural areas no matter which party is in control.
2. Violent crime is dropping all across the country including cities controlled by Democrats.
3. Theft is up all across the country including cities controlled by Republicans
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