You dont have feee speech if you can be arrested for jokes. (Page 11/18)
82-T/A [At Work] AUG 11, 09:50 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

You trying to take credit now for setting the climate? What makes more sense... the majority of Canadians living within 100 miles of our southern border... or inhabiting the arctic regions in the north?

Todd, I think you need a break from the forum. It appears to me that fredtoast has gotten into your head, and you're not handling it well.




Patrick... I think you took all of that too seriously. If I was mad, there would be a lot more caps.

But even with all the years of terrorizing people as my dad drove callously endangering the planet by not wearing his seat belt for the first couple of minutes of every drive... he certainly didn't skip a beat. And if he needs to "smarten up," then I can only imagine what else he could have accomplished when he was in his prime.

Patrick AUG 11, 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

But even with all the years of terrorizing people as my dad drove callously endangering the planet by not wearing his seat belt for the first couple of minutes of every drive... he certainly didn't skip a beat.



Are you now telling me that your dad buckled up while driving? I'm alerting the FBI...

82-T/A [At Work] AUG 11, 10:14 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

Are you now telling me that your dad buckled up while driving? I'm alerting the FBI...



He waited until the car beeped a LOT, or someone in the car yelled at him.

When I was a kid, he pulled the buzzer out of his Volvo 240 because it wouldn't shut off until you put your seat belt on.
Wichita AUG 12, 09:05 AM

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rinselberg AUG 12, 09:37 AM
An infinite number of cartoon images can be created to not express any observation or idea that is relevant or informative.

The level of thought that goes into such cartoons is more often than not, infinitesimal.
olejoedad AUG 12, 09:51 AM

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Originally posted by fredtoast:
If the government is not here to take care of the people then who does it serve?

Your vague, subjective definitions are meaningless. You are just parroting speaking points fed to you by right-wing media. For example many people agree with what you say, but they define "absolute minimum" much differently.



It serves the people by ensuring their freedoms, and keeping the interstate commerce on a level playing field, and protecting the people from enemies, foreign and domestic.

It is NOT here to feed the poor, give away cellphones and clean needles, run elections and have career politicians, although it has devolved into that.

Speaking for myself, I am disgusted with your rehashing of failed Liberal talking points and your general air of smugness and superiority that comes across in your postings on this Forum.
MidEngineManiac AUG 12, 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by fredtoast:
History and facts prove that you are wrong.

Without government protection individuals and the environment were exploited and subjugated by corporate powers. The government is the only protection we have from the corporate "muggers".



Actually, the system you are describing is EXACTLY what we have now.

It's called "vax culture" and "cancel culture" and "pride culture"....or simply WOKE.

The people are getting it up the azz from BOTH the leftist goobermint AND the leftist corporations.

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rinselberg AUG 12, 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by fredtoast:
If the government is not here to take care of the people then who does it serve?

[82-T/A's] vague, subjective definitions are meaningless. [82-T/A is] just parroting speaking points fed to [him] by right-wing media. For example many people agree with what [82-T/A has said], but they define "absolute minimum" much differently [than does 82-T/A.]


"The devil is in the details."

In other words, ideological discourse is more often than not a meaningless expression, unless it's connected to specific, real world circumstances or "cases."

This forum is littered with countless, illustrative examples of untethered and pointless ideological expressions that are nothing more than sentiment. Mostly, it comes from the very same forum members who are constantly harping on their "Big Lie" that any liberal or progressive idea comes from sentiment—never from reason. (Consider the distinction that's possible between "any liberal or progressive idea," versus "any idea that strikes them as liberal or progressive.")

Forum member 82-T/A [At Work] is not among the first to come to my mind when I think about these "Big Lie" forum members.

Here's one of the most current examples:

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Leftists cannot differentiate their feelings from rational, critical, objective, thinking. A Leftist's emotions supplant deliberative thought. The stronger the emotion, the "deeper" they imagine that they are "thinking".


Those are the words of one of the "Big Lie" forum members, in another thread that's been recently active in this same Politics & Religion subforum. (It's not a thread that I would be excluded from entering, by the perhaps not so well known Thread Exclusion table, which consists of a set of unordered pairs of particular forum members.)

That is a literally jaw-dropping example of what an unthinking, "maxed out" blowhard is like when they go off on one of their pointless, ideological screeds—especially for anyone who is familiar with that particular forum member's "body of work", in which "leftist" or any of its variants refers to at least half of the entire post-adolescent population of the United States, by any reasonable measure.

It's a sad thing to witness, but I'm glad to say that I don't expect that to be the future.

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olejoedad AUG 12, 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Those are the words of one of the "Big Lie" forum members, in another thread that's been recently active in this same Politics & Religion subforum. (It's not a thread that I would be excluded from entering, by the perhaps not so well known Thread Exclusion table, which consists of a set of unordered pairs of particular forum members.)

That is a literally jaw-dropping example of what an unthinking, "maxed out" blowhard is like when they go off on one of their pointless, ideological screeds—especially for anyone who is familiar with that particular forum member's "body of work", in which "leftist" or any of its variants refers to at least half of the entire post-adolescent population of the United States, by any reasonable measure.

It's a sad thing to witness, but I'm glad to say that I don't expect that to be the future.




This Forum also has members that post long screeds that say nothing of any meaning to those that spend their time reading them.

Brevity in writing is an art form in the communication world.
If one can get their message point across with few words, the reader appreciates the time savings.
williegoat AUG 12, 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

Brevity in writing is an art form in the communication world.
If one can get their message point across with few words, the reader appreciates the time savings.


TRUTH
(a brief response)