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MAR 08, 05:29 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
BBS bad bull sh1t we need to know what is really going down
not just what the government PIG allows us to KNOW
the current problem is reactionary fascist judges appointed by the rump who want to change settled law for religions cult reasons |
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BBS = Bulletin Board System
... it was the "internet" for most of us, before the internet became a widely public thing.
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BingB
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MAR 08, 05:54 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
Third, no, it wasn't suppressed because it was on the internet - that was the point.
Are you sure you read the article? |
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I read the article and the poiunt I got was that the internet wwas no longer free and open like it used to be. Here are the diretc quotes that made me think this was the point
"The Internet, in other words, was being transformed from a system for exchanging forbidden or dissenting ideas, like Samizdat, to a system for imposing top-down control over information and narrative, a GozIzdat. . .
the Internet offered breathtaking new surveillance capability, allowing authorities to detect thoughtcrime by algorithm and instantaneously disenfranchise those on the wrong side of the information paradigm, stripping them of the ability to raise money or conduct business or communicate at all. . .
We’re going to need to find new ways of getting the truth to each other, and it’s not clear yet how those networks will work, if they will at all. It may come down to handing each other mimeographed papers in subway tunnels, as they did in Soviet times. We haven’t built that informational underground yet, but no matter what, the first steps will necessarily involve raising awareness that there’s a problem at all. . . "
That is why I call it a "drama queen" piece. All the stuff he is claiming was suppressed was all over the internet. And where are the American Gulags with millions of political dissenters?
Victim mentality is all the rage these days.
SOCIAL MEDIA RULES TO DETER MISINFORMATION = MILLIONS OF POLITICAL PRISONERS DYING IN FORCED LABOR CAMPS
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Fats
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MAR 09, 01:39 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
First of all his premise is flawed. Trump did not "by pass" the media> He had the largest most popular news network on earth (FoxNews) on his side plus many more conservative media outlets (Dailey Wire, NewsMax, OAN, New York Post, The Blaze, Washington Times, Breitbart, etc, etc)
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I disagree. Sure, FOX might have been on his side, I don't really know as I never watched them directly. But the Daily Wire was very Anti-Trump and spent a lot of time badmouthing him, one of the reasons I stopped following them. The same for the Blaze. As you may or may not know, Beck was as Anti-Trump as the Left was. To the point where he wouldn't say his name. He was so biased that I cancelled my membership. Breitbart was pro Trump, but they were very quick to point out everything he did wrong, as did callers openly, which was one of the reasons I liked listening to them for opposing points of views. (They changed to a different host a while back and I stopped listening) I hear that Shapiro and Beck have changed their tunes, but I believe they just go where they can make the most money (They change with the wind.)
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cliffw
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MAR 09, 09:13 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
Trump did not "by pass" the media> He had the largest most popular news network on earth (FoxNews) on his side plus many more conservative media outlets (Dailey Wire, NewsMax, OAN, New York Post, The Blaze, Washington Times, Breitbart, etc, etc) |
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Oh yeah. The ones all of the leftoids by pass.[This message has been edited by cliffw (edited 03-09-2024).]
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BingB
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MAR 09, 09:56 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
First, Trump bypassed the hostile media.... |
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This might be a good subject for a whole new thread, but many people on the right have a very skewed view of the media. They believe that almost half of the country does not know that Foxnews, OAN, NewsMax, The Blaze, Breitbart, and all the other right wing media sources even exist. They even made up a term "mainstream media" to give the illusion that somehow THE MOST POPULAR NEWS NETWOR IN AMERICA is some some hidden secret that people don't know about.
Here is the truth. 99% of people who watch the news know exactly what options they have. There is no huge group of people blindfolded by the "mainstream media". Instead there are people who disagree with the rigth-wing propaganda and chose to watch some other news source.
"mainstream media" is a myth created so that the rigth wing could play their victim card. Everyone wants to be a victim these days. So people at the most popular news network in the country whimper and whine about how they are forced to be "outside" the public media access.
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cliffw
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MAR 09, 12:02 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by BingB:
This might be a good subject for a whole new thread, but many people on the right have a very skewed view of the media. They believe that almost half of the country does not know that Foxnews, OAN, NewsMax, The Blaze, Breitbart, and all the other right wing media sources even exist. They even made up a term "mainstream media" to give the illusion that somehow THE MOST POPULAR NEWS NETWOR IN AMERICA is some some hidden secret that people don't know about.
Here is the truth. 99% of people who watch the news know exactly what options they have. There is no huge group of people blindfolded by the "mainstream media". Instead there are people who disagree with the rigth-wing propaganda and chose to watch some other news source.
"mainstream media" is a myth created so that the rigth wing could play their victim card. Everyone wants to be a victim these days. So people at the most popular news network in the country whimper and whine about how they are forced to be "outside" the public media access.
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Why are you wasting your time. Lawyering did you no good and you are failing at teaching.
In your next reincarnation, you should be a psychologist.
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olejoedad
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MAR 09, 01:31 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
Why are you wasting your time. Lawyering did you no good and you are failing at teaching.
In your next reincarnation, you should be a psychopath.
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Fixed that for you.
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ray b
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MAR 11, 09:34 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
Fixed that for you. |
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YOUR WHOLE POINT IS ?
we were posting about media and truth
and you think changing a quote is fair use to insult those you hate
or claiming others who dare to point out trump's lies are haters
BUT NEVER DEFEND THE LIE just attack any other ideas
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williegoat
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MAR 11, 09:43 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
YOUR WHOLE POINT IS ?
we were posting about media and truth
and you think changing a quote is fair use to insult those you hate
or claiming others who dare to point out trump's lies are haters
BUT NEVER DEFEND THE LIE just attack any other ideas |
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BingB
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MAR 11, 11:25 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
Why are you wasting your time.
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I am not wasting my time. I do this because I enjoy it.
Why do you?
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