Joe Biden and Classified Documents (Page 10/17)
williegoat JAN 14, 04:52 PM
Until you can tell us what was in those docs and why Biden had them, the number of docs is irrelevant.

What is important is that if Biden was unaware of the docs, then they were obviously not secure. It is impossible to secure something which doesn’t exist. If no one can vouch for the existence of the docs prior to the November “discovery”, then no one can vouch for their security.

Additionally, after the initial disclosure, documents were “discovered” two more times in two more locations. Again, if no one was aware of their existence, they were not secure.

Now, that being said, it is my contention that the Biden team was aware of the documents and was purposefully concealing them. This is far more sinister than the Trump situation where everyone who needed to know was aware of the docs and the subject matter. They were secure.

As I have said before, every event along the whole timeline of both the Trump and Biden doc saga was orchestrated for maximum propaganda potential.

Oh, and on a side note, speaking of propaganda, we may soon know who leaked the Supreme Court decision last spring.

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williegoat JAN 14, 05:22 PM
Here is an analogy:

Which scenario is acceptable?

A) A guy who has five rifles properly maintained and stored in a gun safe in his bedroom.

or

B) A guy who is unaware that there is a loaded pistol in his garage where his crackhead son has unfettered access.

Which situation is dangerous? Who would you rather have for a neighbor?

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randye JAN 14, 08:18 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:


Until you can tell us what was in those docs and why Biden had them, the number of docs is irrelevant.




What is in those documents that Biden illegally has is as irrelevant as the amount of documents in so far as establishing actus reus.

As Todd and I were just discussing, it is complete ignorance of classified materials procedures that causes stupid ideas such as mens rea being ridiculously tied to the number of purloined documents.

HINT #1: EVERYONE....REPEAT, EVERYONE that is cleared to handle classified materials is fully briefed on how those materials are to be handled and stored and the legal / criminal penalties for failing to do so. You even sign a legal document verifying that you were briefed. You can't claim "oops" later.

HINT #2: Classified materials are NEVER left laying about, mixed with other unclassified materials, so that they might be "inadvertently" scooped up and "misplaced" by mistake. There is a very defined "log out / log in" procedure for classified materials and a log of the materials is continuously kept by a custodian / officer in the SCIF where the materials are kept. NOTHING is ever left unattended by a cleared individual. Even inside a SCIF nothing is ever left lying on a desk unattended. Gotta leave the SCIF to go take a piss? Not until the classified materials you have in your possession are returned to the custodian, logged back in and locked back up.

VICE Presidents do not now, and never have had, the authority to circumvent those legal procedures......PRESIDENTS DO.

Mens rea is already established for Biden simply by his possession and concealment, (intentional or not), of the classified materials discovered so far.

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Wichita JAN 14, 09:56 PM
Makes you wonder where else the Bidens have stash classified documents. If they were transferred to the Chinese or the Ukrainians via Hunter.

randye JAN 15, 05:35 AM

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Makes you wonder where else the Bidens have stash classified documents. If they were transferred to the Chinese or the Ukrainians via Hunter.





Remember this name as the Biden Crime Family espionage spree story unfolds: Kathy Chung (a/k/a: "Kathy Sang-Ok Chung", a/k/a: "Kathy S. Geraghty")

There is no mystery who "hbiden@rosemontsenca.com is...



"10% for the Big Guy"

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rinselberg JAN 15, 08:51 AM
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rinselberg JAN 15, 08:53 AM

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Robert Kyoung Hur
R.I.P.

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Raydar JAN 15, 11:08 AM
From Erick Erickson
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It’s dead. It’s buried.

For Joe Biden to prosecute Donald Trump for keeping classified documents, he’d have to prosecute himself.

Progressives can distinguish, nuance, and otherwise make the case that what Trump did was worse, different, greater, or really bad, but it does not matter. The President of the United States, at least, can plausibly declassify documents.

Joe Biden, as Vice President, had no such power and spread them all over the place. On top of that, his administration covered up the discovery to protect Democrats from election consequences after giving maximum exposure to Trump.

If you are just tuning in, they’ve found more documents.

We’ve got documents in a Chinese funded office.

We’ve got documents in a locked garage Hunter Biden had access to.

We’ve got documents in Biden’s house.

We’ve got commingled documents that are partly classified and partly unclassified.

And we have a cover up.

Good luck prosecuting Donald Trump on this sort of stuff without doing the same to Biden.

There has, on the right, long been an obsession with finding that one thing to throw the Clintons in jail. The left/media has the same obsession with Trump.

When Trump supporters suggested that perhaps Democrats had planted the documents at Mar-a-Lago, the American press corps condemned their conspiracies. Now, it is Democrats and the gals on The View suggesting Republicans planted the documents and the press corps is pretty quiet instead of pushing back on the conspiracies.

Maybe, in fact, Joe Biden planted the documents himself so he could well and truly kill off the case against Donald Trump and avoid the politically fraught decision to prosecute.

Or maybe Joe Biden is a hypocrite and all the stentorious blathering against Trump’s handling of classified documents was just a meaningless partisan ploy.

The case against Donald John Trump, dead today at six months. RIP
blackrams JAN 15, 12:25 PM
Wouldn't it be delicious if, President Biden pardoned former President Trump so that the former VP could avoid his own prosecution.
Yeah, I know that's farfetched but, this ongoing soap opera is inspiring.



I can only imagine our allies and our enemies' reactions to how this is coming down. Some will be laughing hysterically, others rolling their eyes with some fearing what might be next. Assign those reactions as you see best.
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Rams

Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.........

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williegoat JAN 15, 02:16 PM
OK, I want to know...
If someone planted all of the documents at one end of the house, wouldn't it tip over?