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gen2muchwork NOV 30, 08:14 AM
Thanks!

so I got somewhere last night. the drivers side axle/brake assembly is out. It is very similar to a ford 9"

IDK why my hosting thing rotates these.

axle tube



axle with bearing, retainer, backing plate, seal and brake spider.



So to get this all apart I have to remove this bearing retaining ring that can be seen against the bearing. One would assume I cut/break it off, then replace it with a new one. EV performance claims they make these in house for a whopping $80 something dollars. I can't see paying that for a $10 part yet, so I'm trying to cross it to some ezgo or cushman part hopefully. I'm not getting very far with that yet.
LitebulbwithaFiero NOV 30, 02:55 PM
I always refer to it as a wedding ring. I tried a couple quick google searches and could not come up with a supplier though.

While not recommended for a 9", for what this vehicle is, you could press it off and re-use it

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gen2muchwork DEC 01, 07:07 AM

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Originally posted by LitebulbwithaFiero:

I always refer to it as a wedding ring. I tried a couple quick google searches and could not come up with a supplier though.

While not recommended for a 9", for what this vehicle is, you could press it off and re-use it



I probably could manage to press it off. But It a risk on a part like that I'd like to avoid.
I found an old ezgo number from a similar axle on the same diff... So I ordered one from ebay. I really think it will fit, but who knows till it gets here. it was only 3x what I wanted to pay vs 10, so I bit the bullet.

I took the time to get the one axle naked.


and the pile of stuff that was on it. You can clearly see the missing tab in the middle of the right side of the brake spider.


and the bearing... it came out of the tube as a roller on the shaft, and a race in the axle housing. By the part number,( timkin u199/u160l) this was once a one piece assembly. perhaps that is what took out the brake spider.


So to finish this side i need to get
housing seal
bearing
brake spider
shaft seal
brake pads
probably a backing plate/ dust cover.

I guess the axle is the only good part.

That leads me to an ebay add that has a whole complete drop in assembly for a cushman for $177. But its 5 lug, so It only good for the entire brake assy. I'd have to cut the ring/bearing and throw my axle in it with a new ring/bearing. Not sure if that's the best way or finding piece by piece. I'll be looking out for parts for a minute.

I'm really hoping the rest of the spiders can just hone/reseal.

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gen2muchwork DEC 06, 01:09 PM
well, 1 part has shown up. I took a guess on a cushman retaining ring where the axle set was similar. It turns out to be the same ring. Nice to have a part number for it at least. I paid $27 for it, vs the 80 something ev performance charges. Worth the headache searching.



next up is the inner seal. It's a weird one and the measurements don't really cross to anything out there. I have a couple coming, one with a slightly smaller shaft dia. and one slightly larger. One will have to work, since that is what is out there.

my shaft dia is 1.70" bore is 1.825

sooo, I chose a 1.156 x 1.828
orrr... 1.175x 1.828

Both are smaller in width than the original, by a little but maybe that won't matter.
gen2muchwork DEC 08, 01:11 PM




Seal came in. as you can see its a little thinner. It seems to fit the shaft and the bore right...

Also, I have aquired a Dana/spicer model 18 manual, that would have made the parts finding process much simpler. At least I have it now.

I suspect with the holidays approaching, the freezing temps, and snow overtime I might not make much progress for a bit.
rogergarrison DEC 08, 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by gen2muchwork:
It has non assisted 7" drums at all 4 corners on 12" tires, leaf sprung solid rear axle, no sway bars



My 400 hp Dodge SuperBee had unassisted drum brakes on all corners (10" ?), no sway bars, and leaf springs on a solid rear axle. It did just fine, although it wasnt a good roadracer.

gen2muchwork DEC 13, 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by rogergarrison:


My 400 hp Dodge SuperBee had unassisted drum brakes on all corners (10" ?), no sway bars, and leaf springs on a solid rear axle. It did just fine, although it wasnt a good roadracer.


from now on I'm going to tell people it has a superbee suspension. lol

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gen2muchwork JAN 08, 08:55 AM
It has been so cold it's been hard to motivate myself to work in the garage. I did get some parts in the mail though. Only thing I am short is the bearing for the axle now. I picked up a whole axle loaded for a cushman. The axle is not interchangeable since the length, spline and lug count is incorrect, but all the brake parts fit and It was way cheaper than piece by piece. I just have to put it all on my axle.


Now, I can begin moving on to rebuilding the other 3. I have hopes I can hone and seal all the other torque spiders, which is about $40 a wheel, rather than $140 for the spider.
gen2muchwork JAN 22, 07:16 AM
Had a nice weekend weather wise. Washed 4 cars then, I finally just broke down and bought a press because I'm sort of tired of making tools and or beating things apart or together. It popped the axle pieces together easily and I now have one wheel finished with all new brakes, spider, backing cover, bearing and axle seals.


I also got all 3 remaining wheels brake cylinder seals shipped and ready for me to get to work on.


this whole torque spider thing is sort of annoying. I can't see why there isnt an open bottom on these to slip off without pressing everything apart. They also could have used a backing plate and a normal wheel cylinder. The cheapest seal kit I could get was about $30 per wheel, which is $20 more than just about any complete with seals cast wheel cylinder. The whole spider would hav cost around $130 complete, but that is $$ for me on this project. Gotta save where I can.

I did also buy a new master cylinder which was cheap and crosses to a 74 amc ambassador/ gremlin/ etc with 4 drums . At least something could be bought at an auto parts store rather than golf cart supply.

Perhaps I'll have the brakes ready this week?

On a side note I got yet another car this weekend. 09 Ford Edge 2wd for the wife. Was an absolute steal for 1K, even with some trans sensor issues. Must have used some good karma for that one. Running out of driveway space now. Good thing my corner lot has 2 driveways. According to the kids, one is moms and one is dads driveway.

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gen2muchwork JAN 24, 07:45 AM
on to the passenger rear.

One shoe appears to have been relined, but they drilled all new holes to do it, then the daubers killed it. Lucky I have an extra from the other side


supposed to be like this


pistons were jammed pretty good, but I got them out safe


I cant get a good pic of the bore, but they look salvageable.


This casting has a big flaw, its supposed to be flat for smooth brake operation but there is a big booger


this assembly should be ok. I got the adjuster freed up, and the springs are still strong and not to corroded


Might get to honing tonight on this one.