Can someone tell me what's going on here? Never seen this before... (Page 2/2)
Villain FEB 06, 07:21 PM
I’m almost thinking AI
82-T/A [At Work] FEB 06, 07:48 PM

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Originally posted by Villain:

I’m almost thinking AI




I saw it on a video that showed advanced Pontiac dash-boards. It spent most of the time talking about the 6000 STE and what could / would have been, and then showed a few other Pontiac gauges / dashes... it didn't say this was a prototype... but I'm thinking it was.
1985 Fiero GT FEB 06, 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I saw it on a video that showed advanced Pontiac dash-boards. It spent most of the time talking about the 6000 STE and what could / would have been, and then showed a few other Pontiac gauges / dashes... it didn't say this was a prototype... but I'm thinking it was.



Oh, it was definitely either a prototype or a mock-up, as it has distinct elements from specific years, the 84/85 instrumentation (integrated oil gauge, 85mph speedo, orange needles) and with some prototype stuff, turbo gauge, combined with the 86-88 rally gauges, and an idea on the sub controls. So it is a very early prototype.

Also, something that I've never heard anyone mention before, but the little flat area between the radio and the shifter surround is different between 84/85 and 86-88, this one is the early style, the difference is that they extended the curved edge more, on my 85, my phone falls in corners, in my dad's 86, it is caught by those ridges, people probably complained that their cigarette packs were falling, as that's what that area is designed for.
82-T/A [At Work] FEB 07, 08:08 AM

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Originally posted by 1985 Fiero GT:Oh, it was definitely either a prototype or a mock-up, as it has distinct elements from specific years, the 84/85 instrumentation (integrated oil gauge, 85mph speedo, orange needles) and with some prototype stuff, turbo gauge, combined with the 86-88 rally gauges, and an idea on the sub controls. So it is a very early prototype.

Also, something that I've never heard anyone mention before, but the little flat area between the radio and the shifter surround is different between 84/85 and 86-88, this one is the early style, the difference is that they extended the curved edge more, on my 85, my phone falls in corners, in my dad's 86, it is caught by those ridges, people probably complained that their cigarette packs were falling, as that's what that area is designed for.



Dude! I don't think I ever noticed that. I know exactly what you're talking about. On my 87, the vertical ridge does curve out at the bottom where it meets the shifter surface. It never occurred to me that the 84/85s wouldn't have that. The Fiero is definitely a "smoker's car."
1985 Fiero GT FEB 07, 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:


Dude! I don't think I ever noticed that. I know exactly what you're talking about. On my 87, the vertical ridge does curve out at the bottom where it meets the shifter surface. It never occurred to me that the 84/85s wouldn't have that. The Fiero is definitely a "smoker's car."



Yeah, it definitely is, although so are every other gm car of that era, it was a standard they were built to, every one I've seen has a place to put the cigarette packs and at least 2 ashtrays. Works out well for me and my dad, as our phones are the same and fit perfectly in the cigarette holders. my phone happens to be the exact width to fit there in the Fiero really nicely, except that it doesn't stay around corners.

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hyperv6 FEB 07, 10:45 PM
Neither 2.9 had this set up. They were called The Porsche Eaters. The black one is original and in a museum in Europe.

More than likely this was an early mock up for 84-85 tat was done in 82-83.

In this era they were still hoping to use a OHC turbo 4 from Opel. Basically a Sunbird Turbo. They never got the engine.

They did use the engine in the. Pace car prototype that is still at Indy. Many never knew there was a 4th pace car with a OHC Turbo. It had oil issues and would blow up so they moved to the Super Duty.

So no this was not production and was in anticipation for an engine that never came.
1985 Fiero GT FEB 08, 01:09 AM

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Originally posted by hyperv6:

Neither 2.9 had this set up. They were called The Porsche Eaters. The black one is original and in a museum in Europe.

More than likely this was an early mock up for 84-85 tat was done in 82-83.

In this era they were still hoping to use a OHC turbo 4 from Opel. Basically a Sunbird Turbo. They never got the engine.

They did use the engine in the. Pace car prototype that is still at Indy. Many never knew there was a 4th pace car with a OHC Turbo. It had oil issues and would blow up so they moved to the Super Duty.

So no this was not production and was in anticipation for an engine that never came.



Ok, that makes sense, styling seemed a little early for the 2.9 prototypes.
hyperv6 FEB 08, 09:21 AM

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Originally posted by 1985 Fiero GT:


Ok, that makes sense, styling seemed a little early for the 2.9 prototypes.



Actually the 2.9 cars were around 83-84 -85.

They had to remove the Porsche eater tail lamps when Porsche engineering came in around 85 to tune the 88 suspensions.

Many things over lap here as many things were being worked on 4-5 years before it was ready. Money or lack of it slowed down the introductions.

I recall the turbo cars were public in late 84-85 so the were around prior.