FWD HM282 - With Rodney’s conversion kit (Page 1/2)
Backtothe80s MAY 06, 09:15 PM
Hi everyone,

So I decided to go with the FWD HM282(my original Getrag was tired and very few people in Canada know about them and the parts were getting up there to rebuild) and swapped bell housings from the original Fiero Getrag. I also swapped the speedo gear, shimed the diff with the GM shim tool and GM shims, cut the reverse shift rod so the case would close and reassembled. All good to this point. I installed Rodney’s FWD conversion kit so I could hook up the factory cables. Lined up the shifter assembly tightened everything down and I get every gear but first?

I went to Rodney’s web site and it looks like there is now an update on this part to work with this transmission but no diagram showing where to make the mods. Working single handed makes things difficult at best to see what it’s actually binding on and I don’t want to mess this up.

I’m wondering if anyone has done this and knows how or where the mod has to be done with pictures. It would be a great help and would be nice to finally start driving her again after 13 months of hard work. Thanking you in advance.

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fierosound MAY 07, 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by Backtothe80s:

... cut the reverse shift rod so the case would close and reassembled.



I have NEVER heard of this being done.

I had the Fiero bellhousing swapped to a V6 FWD Getrag.
The shop didn't mention having to do any modification.


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Backtothe80s MAY 07, 03:53 PM
Hi Fiero Sound,

I went with the brand new Getrag on eBay from a quad 4 and swapped bell housings(not easy as it sounds as mods had to be made to the internals) I happen to have a spare FWD from a possible 80’s cavalier that was in the front passenger floor when I bought the car. Unfortunately, not knowing the history I went brand new. As a side note I don’t recommend to anyone to use this transmission due to the fact of all the time and work involved. If I did it again I would go with another tranny setup or rebuild the one I took out. Rodney happens to sell a shifter cable adaptor for the FWD conversion and to work on the quad 4 he now mentions that a mod has to be done but I’m not exactly sure how or where? Hopefully someone can guide me. I tried reaching out to Rodney and I hope he’s doing ok, but I haven’t heard back yet and I’m trying to get this project back on the road. Thanks
fierosound MAY 07, 08:33 PM
Aha! - so it's a Quad-4 FWD Getrag you're using with swapped bellhousing...

quad 4 getrag conversion tips by ytzman

"just thought I'd put this out there for those about to do a quad 4 getrag swap since you can get them "brand new" off ebay for cheap.

tip one:
cut approximately 1/2 inch off the reverse shift shaft - it took me a while to figure out why it kept locking into reverse every time I bolted the case together.

tip two:
If you are using Rodney's FWD conversion kit, you may have to clearance the bracket where it's close to the shift arm.
The shift arm just catches it by a 1/8" and prevents you from getting 1st and 2nd gear.
Not to say Rodney's kit isn't good, it works perfect on a V6 FWD tranny."

From:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...100421-2-095259.html
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From www.rodneydickman.com



Has anyone modified the bracket?? Picture?

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Backtothe80s MAY 07, 09:32 PM
Thank you Fierosound for taking the time to locate this original post. I wish I would have seen this before I started this project. Although never too late as this makes sense now. I went out to the car and recorded the movement and I see where this is now making contact as stated in the above posting. Ok tomorrow’s project. Fingers crossed I get her back on the road this weekend. I’ll post how it worked out and will take photos as well to help future owners. Thanks a million!
Backtothe80s MAY 09, 01:16 PM
A shout out to Fierosound. Thank you.

I went into and read ytzman’s posting to try and make sense of what had to be done to get the HM282 FWD off eBay to shift into all gears. Rodney has an update on this part on his web site stating you may have too make a mod to this part for this transmission or you may not get 5th & reverse but my issue was not getting 1st gear and had all others. So this through me off. Not sure if this modification fixes multiple issues? But here is what I did.

I took a look at the FWD conversion purchased from Rodney and how it was possibly making contact with the shift rod bushing, once I could see the issue I etched the paint on the bracket with a drill bit around the collar(By the way amazing products from Rodney and a huge shout out to him for making these amazing products - I have bought a lot over the years and I’m never disappointed!).

I then removed the FWD conversion kit along with the shift cables. Took my bench grinder and followed my etched line to remove the excess material(I removed more than 1/8). Repainted and reinstalled kit

I then aligned the shifter with a drill bit and attached the cables.

Tested it and I have 1-5 and reverse!

I attached pictures for anyone willing to attempt this transmission in the future.

Before you do make sure you have all the proper tools before taking apart and make sure you measure your original reverse shift rod with a straight edge along the case and measure the new one and cut and the same as the old one. Bolt the case back together with anaerobic sealer to proper torque and make sure the shift detents are in correct location and transmission is in neutral and secure detent block. Seal the hockey puck back in place and tranny is done and ready for install. Good luck! It took many attempts for me to get the right.

See pictures for Rodney’s FWD kit with the small mod that needed to be done to get all gears.

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fierosound MAY 09, 03:39 PM
Good to hear it's fixed and working!

Fixed: See pictures for Rodney’s FWD kit with the small mod that needed to be done to get all gears.









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Will MAY 13, 01:59 PM

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Take the round part pictured here and weld the slotted washer to the top of it... then use the stock shift linkage and don't worry about Rodney's parts.
Quadfather MAY 17, 08:39 AM
I had the same problem on my Quad Getrag, but I was using Fiero V6 Getrag brackets.

I also welded a piece of metal down the side of the trimmed bracket to give it a little more strength.

jscott1 MAY 17, 05:45 PM
Where are these NOS 282s on eBAY?

EDIT - Nevermind found them

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