Phlebmaster's 86 Fiero GT Evolution- full of pics and win! (Page 2/5)
Phlebmaster DEC 20, 09:03 AM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

Still feel that way? Kind of looks like battery acid has been used as coolant in that car!




I like your sense of humor... Yes I still do. To quote myself and add context
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This car sat for several months before I got her,



They don't make 30 year old vacuum lines or old metal parts like they used to, but this specific issue was caused by cavitation related to sitting for a long period in a wet environment. Oregon is very wet and the car was not running for months until I went to pick it up. The owner let me know about the issues she knew about and from what I have seen they took care of the car up to that point.

Besides, this wouldn't be much of a project thread if the car was perfect and would reduce your entertainment level by 0.0000001% and that would be a tragedy!
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Aaron H
1986 Fiero GT 2.8- A dream car of mine since childhood- Stock now, but looking for creative options to upgrade this wonderful car

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Patrick DEC 20, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by Phlebmaster:

...this specific issue was caused by cavitation related to sitting for a long period in a wet environment. Oregon is very wet and the car was not running for months until I went to pick it up.



I know all about a "wet environment". I'm on the coast here in BC.

I've had Fieros which had been sitting for almost ten years... and I've never seen that type and/or level of corrosion. Must be an Oregon thing.

Phlebmaster DEC 20, 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

I know all about a "wet environment". I'm on the coast here in BC.

I've had Fieros which had been sitting for almost ten years... and I've never seen that type and/or level of corrosion. Must be an Oregon thing.



Well...We do have slugs larger than your common house cat...so yeah. LOL

I was a bit surprised at the level of decay, but it makes sense IF she didn't have coolant and only used water in the car for a while. I have experience with this type of thing with Datsuns... those are rust buckets from the factory but I loved my 240Z.

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Aaron H
1986 Fiero GT 2.8- A dream car of mine since childhood- Stock now, but looking for creative options to upgrade this wonderful car

Patrick DEC 20, 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by Phlebmaster:

I was a bit surprised at the level of decay, but it makes sense IF she didn't have coolant and only used water in the car for a while.



I suspect it was not only straight water (rather than proper coolant), but it was probably "hard" water as well.


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Originally posted by Phlebmaster:

Well...We do have slugs larger than your common house cat...



Yes, I have heard there are some rather impressive specimens down there.

copperhens DEC 21, 05:11 PM
I didn't know those housings were so expensive. I see why you're trying to fix yours up.
Phlebmaster DEC 21, 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by copperhens:

I didn't know those housings were so expensive. I see why you're trying to fix yours up.



Yeah, $70 for a used one was what I found. I was desperate too otherwise I’d been stranded. But I am making a trip to the local pick n pull tomorrow to scavenge the only fiero they have. I’ll have spares for anything I need. I’ll also see what engine options they have because I saw a 95 camaro sitting there and I think it had the 3.4. My wife will be unhappy with me if I come home with another engine... lol but I’ll take the beating

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Aaron H
1986 Fiero GT 2.8- A dream car of mine since childhood- Stock now, but looking for creative options to upgrade this wonderful car

Phlebmaster DEC 24, 08:49 AM
Vacuum leaks SUCK!- amen

The irony is overwhelming- I still have a little bit of an issue after replacing all the lines that were bad. The only things left are the EGR and tube, AIC and the hard lines under the intake that I couldn't get to without removing the plenum. It does seem to run better but still runs very rich and lobes at idle a bit. It IS getting better... so that is encouraging.

Spent a whole day at the pick n pull and came home with some loot! I pulled every sensor I could get, most of them looked new and I even found a box or two inside the car from some of those...so I have spares now.

Here is the parts list:
Throttle body assy- including the TPS and AIC valve..with all hoses and pigtails
Thermostat housing...with new thermostat.
Fan switch with pigtail
Brake booster lines
Temp sensor with pigtail
Oil pressure sender and pigtail
MAP sensor- new
EGR valve assy with new tube
Vac lines- all hard lines I could salvage to replace mine if needed
Both ECM chips from 1226869- just as an insurance policy.
Reman starter
New plug wires
EGR valve sensor unit with pigtail and lines
That rear blower motor for cooling the alt and dist- I am not sure if mine works so I grabbed it as a back up
I even got a cool collapsible cup holder from a Ford... I need one. :-)
Any relays left- mainly the headlights but I grabbed a few more

Yesterday I took the car to the shop and replaced all the vac lines I could without removing the intake and lifted the car to examine the underside. It is good to have a way to lift the car when needed... Yes I was careful not to damage the cooling lines.

There wasn't much on the bone here... but I got what I needed...


Here's the loot!!- The pic won't load so click on the image placeholder to see the loot...sorry
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I fixed the rear hatch key lock mechanism... I ran into a pinch when my battery died and couldn't open the trunk...yikes! Problem solved now


I took care of the important stuff.... new sound system. Sounds great!


Special hard lines replaced the old and cracked rubber vac lines...


Yes! I love having this available. Will come in handy if I swap the engine...




Assistance requested for these next items.....please.

I discovered these damn things when trying to pull the wheel and work on the rear brakes, stupid locking lugnuts.... I need to get a key. I read there's a place where I can get these from the manufacturer but if anyone here has one I'd much rather buy it from a PFF member. If you have this key as a spare please let me know asap



Lastly, I discovered this random connector tied in with the speed sending unit pigtail... does anyone know what this goes to? I looked everywhere and did not see any connections this could go to.... help?




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Aaron H
1986 Fiero GT 2.8- A dream car of mine since childhood- Stock now, but looking for creative options to upgrade this wonderful car

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cvxjet DEC 24, 08:04 PM
A couple of things; 1) Get to that JY and get the Thermostat housing off of that 85! 2) It is very smart to gather spare parts; Like that Thermo housing, which is thin metal and CAN be exposed to a very corrosive environment. 3) Those locking lug nuts can be removed by using the right-size CHEAP socket and hammering it on. 4) Be very careful about lifting your Fiero; The coolant tubes run along the rockers....They are very nicely made stainless pipes....But they can easily be damaged/crushed.
Phlebmaster DEC 24, 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by cvxjet:

A couple of things; 1) Get to that JY and get the Thermostat housing off of that 85! 2) It is very smart to gather spare parts; Like that Thermo housing, which is thin metal and CAN be exposed to a very corrosive environment. 3) Those locking lug nuts can be removed by using the right-size CHEAP socket and hammering it on. 4) Be very careful about lifting your Fiero; The coolant tubes run along the rockers....They are very nicely made stainless pipes....But they can easily be damaged/crushed.



Thank you for the input and pointers... Yes, I definitely grabbed that housing. $4.99 was all!

The socket- I tried using a 13/16th socket but it started to strip the nut- but I'll try a different socket since I was using an old one that was pretty worn...if I was going to ruin one that was the one I would prefer to do it to. :-) . If nothing else I can try the gator socket- that was something I read about too. Or plan C option D I can get a nut out tool from HF that will work. I was trying to save the lug nuts, but probably better to get rid of them anyway.

And the coolant lines were out of danger this time, I set the car up with the forks resting on the rear chassis rather than the body but good advice nonetheless for anyone seeing my shenanigans and getting a bright idea. LOL

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Aaron H
1986 Fiero GT 2.8- A dream car of mine since childhood- Stock now, but looking for creative options to upgrade this wonderful car

Patrick DEC 24, 08:45 PM

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Originally posted by Phlebmaster:



EGR valve assy with new tube



That's a "new" tube? Do you have an asbestos jacket for it? If not, you'll need to buy some header wrap (discussed Here). Otherwise, exhaust heat from the EGR tube will help to cook the ICM in the base of your distributor.