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HarryT
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SEP 14, 12:44 AM
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In the new Car and Driver they have an article with pictures of a new Corvette for 2017. It is mid engine. They compare it to a Porsche and another mid engine car, but no mention of Fiero even though it was a product of their mother company, GM.
I feel they are in denial and acting like the Fiero never happened. What a shame.
Harry[This message has been edited by HarryT (edited 09-14-2014).]
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no2pencil
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SEP 14, 01:17 AM
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To be fair, it was 30 years ago & the Fiero was an economic car 1st, sporty v6 2nd. To compare a 600+hp mid engine car to a Fiero is a bit of a stretch in my opinion. That being said, however, a similar hp Porsche, still in production, this makes more sense.
Just to add, this article does mention the Fiero.[This message has been edited by no2pencil (edited 09-14-2014).]
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IMSA GT
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SEP 14, 01:27 AM
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GM's biggest mistake is that they keep trying to bullshit around with the Corvette which is overrated, overpriced, and uncomfortable as hell. They have no good design crew anymore so they keep dicking with a car that is a piece of plastic crap with a 600hp motor stuffed inside. If they designed a NEW car with a mid engine, they may actually gain new customers even from the Euro crowd but again, they just choose to redesign a turd and hope that it catches on.
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HarryT
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SEP 14, 02:37 AM
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Sorry about that. I was reading the article while waiting for my wife to do her shopping. I missed the one line Fiero part.
Harry
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DKcustoms
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SEP 14, 09:23 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by IMSA GT:
GM's biggest mistake is that they keep trying to bullshit around with the Corvette which is overrated, overpriced, and uncomfortable as hell. They have no good design crew anymore so they keep dicking with a car that is a piece of plastic crap with a 600hp motor stuffed inside. If they designed a NEW car with a mid engine, they may actually gain new customers even from the Euro crowd but again, they just choose to redesign a turd and hope that it catches on. |
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I'm going to assume you've never seen a new C7 in person, because you've definitely never sat in one and never driven one.
I have.
The seats are amazing, they hug you in every spot, the bolstering is perfect and they are super comfy.
The car has multiple different "modes" so you can change how soft or hard the suspension is, making it as comfortable as you want.
Now, saying the car is overrated and overpriced, wrong again.
The new C7 tops out around $74,000, and is beating cars, including the Viper, many Porches, etc, that are well over $100k
I would say, as well as many experts, that this car is a bargain and outperforms many cars outside its class.
Of course, you're welcome to your opinion, luckily for you.
I will agree that GM should be designing its own separate mid-engine car and leave the Vette how it is, but I can't control that.
Also, the new Corvette is a spitting image in a lot of ways of the Ferrari F12, but, oh well, its unique in its own way.
 [This message has been edited by DKcustoms (edited 09-14-2014).]
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FIEROPHREK
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SEP 14, 09:37 AM
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hyperv6
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SEP 14, 09:44 AM
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The C7 is by far a great car and for the money nothing else is close. GM finally was funded to finish the car and it is what they wanted for once and not just what they could afford.
This C8 deal is real and we will have to see how it works out. The future for power sports cars will require some major changes and this is part of the story. I expect at some point we may also see a Hybrid system involved here too.
Reports also have been going around the Vette Team has an engine with 1,000 plus HP but we have yet to hear if it is just engine or with a hybrid system. The issues they are having is getting the power to the ground right now. Nothing more was said.
As for the C7 the car has been a run away success as it is selling in near record numbers. I has been getting world acclaim by the media and has a waiting list nearly a year long. Anyone who is calling this a over rated turd either is jealous or has no clue. While the cars in the past have always lacked this one was done right.
The truth is the V8 was really to have been a C7 but GM delayed it as it would have taken more time to get to market. GM moved it to be the C8 and did a new complete C7 so they could ease this one into production better and keep both the 7 and 8 around as they transform the car.
The future to powerful performance cars will be systems similar to the 918 and as time goes on the prices will come down on this technology. If you are not familiar with the 918 I would check it out as it is an amazing car. I really hate to see the companies have to resort to such systems but to keep cars like this in production they will have to go this route.
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tshark
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SEP 14, 09:44 AM
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Comfort isn't the same for everyone. I found the new Stingray VERY comfortable, like it was designed for me. Everything came to hand, the car was responsive, and an overall delight. I wasn't racing it, but I had no complaints. It delivered. For the sake of correctness, this was the end of LAST year, and this particular specemin was specially prepped by GM, so it may have been a bit different. If I recall correctly, it was the 700HP variety. It was either T-Top or hard top--probably the latter. I'd have to find the picture. Someone who is a different size/shape may not have been as comfortable. YMMV.
The Corvette and Chevrolet seem to have won a lot of races this year. I seem to recall a race early in the year in which a Corvette finished 1, 2, and 3 against Porsches, Mazdas, etc. May have been the Rolex 24 sports car series or a GT series race.
IMSA seems to have had a lot of cars. I dunno. People have different tastes.
This will not help the value of the Fiero. In fact, the Corvette, as a mid-engine layout, could finish the Fiero once and for all. On the other hand, it could revive interest in the Fiero for those who can't afford the Corvette, and possibly provide us with upgrade parts.[This message has been edited by tshark (edited 09-14-2014).]
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hyperv6
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SEP 14, 09:46 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by FIEROPHREK:
I think a mid engine vette would rock. Is this perhaps a real world test session??
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Not really a test program but when the C8 was started this marketing in this segment would have played parts. Once the car was delayed they kept the racing program. This was the first hint on what they were planning.
Not the DP car is a full on race car and not production.
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IMSA GT
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SEP 14, 10:50 AM
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I guess I should have started by saying that I can't stand GM. I'm a Ford and Dodge guy so to me, GM simply has run out of ideas for good vehicles and is trying to modify the "best seller". In the business world when you put all of your eggs in one basket, sometimes you end up with nothing in the end.
| quote | Originally posted by tshark:
IMSA seems to have had a lot of cars. I dunno. People have different tastes.
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Actually, you are correct. I have owned Saleens, Vipers, Prowlers, Corvairs, Fiats, and Fieros so I have been all over the place with vehicle luxury and quality all the way down to the simplest interior with no A/C, a steel dash, and crank windows. In the end, I'm not a GM fan. Too much bullshit within the company and especially with their bailout. The only cars from GM that I would have owned would have been the G8 or the Cadillac CTS V....which are very similar cars.[This message has been edited by IMSA GT (edited 09-14-2014).]
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