The Getrag F23 Tutorial - By Emc209i (Page 9/28)
L67 JAN 14, 01:00 AM

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Originally posted by voodoochikin04:
so where would one go to get that bleeder unit for the f23? my trans didnt come with that and i CANNOT find one..



I am confident to a very high degree that the plastic bleeder for clutch hydraulics is universal to all of Getrags newer transmissions and transaxles (Getrag F series; F23, F25, F35, F40). You can either find it in the slave of any of these newer transmissions in a yard, or you can get the part number from a GM dealership and order the piece.
Jncomutt JAN 14, 09:29 AM

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Originally posted by ericjon262:

I found the out hard way, Roger Thelin's rear swap bracket is an 88 only item... just thought the rest of you should know.



Eric, on one of my F23 swaps, I used Thelins bracket (hoping it would be much easier), and I ran into the same issues. I ended up having to cut back a bit of the cradle in that area, and even file down some of the mount.

I also wanted to add that I know of a broken 4th gear behind a 3800. I don't really talk to the guy much anymore but I can confirm a stripped 4th gear F23. If I happen to go back to CT this spring/summer or such, I'll see if I can get some more details, or see if the trans is still around to be taken apart. I don't know how one breaks 4th gear, but that's the word. Car still drove with 1,2,3,5.

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carbon JAN 14, 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by Jncomutt:

Car still drove with 1,2,3,5.




Those are really the only gears you need anyway...

How much is the rear Thelin mount? I do have an 88 and I wouldn't mind not having to make both mounts...
ericjon262 JAN 14, 05:17 PM
right now, I'm looking at one of two options, one, modify Thelins bracket(which cost me $125!) or 2, make my own mount, I'm confident I can do either, I was just hoping Thelin's mount would work for the time factor. otherwise, the mounting should be easy enough, the engine is already mounted up front with a rodney dickman poly mount, so that's one mount out of the question, and I've already got a couple of plans for the front mount. as for the rear, I'm using Thelin's mount as a guide, just building it to a lower profiles.

it'll be alot of work, but the main thing I don't like about it is that it'll take longer.

Thanks for the input-

262

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mattwa JAN 14, 11:42 PM

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Originally posted by carbon:


Those are really the only gears you need anyway...

How much is the rear Thelin mount? I do have an 88 and I wouldn't mind not having to make both mounts...



I'm worried about the condition of my F23...just being me. It turns and shifts freely in every gear, so I hope it's ok.

It's $125, which in your case Nick is money well spent. I just didn't have that much to spend on a mount, I would have the same issues others are having with the pre-88 cradles, and it's only 1/8" thick stamped steel. Being stamped helps with strength, but it just wasn't thick enough for me, because I'm giving myself some room for a possible turbo addition in the future.
carbon JAN 16, 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by mattwa:

It's $125, which in your case Nick is money well spent. I just didn't have that much to spend on a mount, I would have the same issues others are having with the pre-88 cradles, and it's only 1/8" thick stamped steel. Being stamped helps with strength, but it just wasn't thick enough for me, because I'm giving myself some room for a possible turbo addition in the future.



In my case? You thinks me rich? I am already freaking out about the $750 outlay for the 3500/F23/clutch/collection of parts that I recently acquired, plus a fancy custom shift cable (very nice)... I do have pedals, shifter and axles, thanks to a good friend, but I am still down on the hydraulics and a stock Getrag select cable. People that say that swaps are cheap are people who had a lot of crap laying around to start with... And probably aren't doing an auto to manual swap at the same time.

I have a do have a cheap MIG(at least it runs off of 220V) that I got at black Friday time two years ago, but have yet to fire it up. This whole thing is going to be a learning experience with an apparent steep curve...

I really need to start selling stuff.

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mattwa JAN 16, 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by carbon:


In my case? You thinks me rich? I am already freaking out about the $750 outlay for the 3500/F23/clutch/collection of parts that I recently acquired, plus a fancy custom shift cable (very nice)... I do have pedals, shifter and axles, thanks to a good friend, but I am still down on the hydraulics and a stock Getrag select cable. People that say that swaps are cheap are people who had a lot of crap laying around to start with... And probably aren't doing an auto to manual swap at the same time.

I have a do have a cheap MIG(at least it runs off of 220V) that I got at black Friday time two years ago, but have yet to fire it up. This whole thing is going to be a learning experience with an apparent steep curve...

I really need to start selling stuff.




I have been there done that...twice. Going from auto manual is worth it after it's all said and done, however it's ALOT of work and, at least for me, very very painful and frustrating. I'd vote swapping out the pedals is the worst, and removing the automatic cooler lines and replacing it with the clutch hydraulic line is 2nd worst. But again that is just me and my experience.
But I'm glad to see you are acquiring parts and preparing for a swap.

With that mount, no I didn't mean to imply you were rich or something, I meant a 3500 and your more...mature driving style (just a guess), wouldn't be an issue with the thinner 1/8" mount. I made something that is possibly overkill so I didn't break it. Plus, that was by far, the hardest mount to make, so the $125 is well worth the price in that case.
But still, $750 is nothing..you don't want to know the amount of money into my 3800 swap so far, or the 4.9 swap even.
mattwa JAN 16, 07:57 PM
Just as an FYI, it looks like the stock Fiero axles are just a tad long for the F23, but since many have already done it, I'm sure they will work just fine. I belevie this is because the F23's differential area is wider then a stock Fiero manual transmission, therefore pushing the axles out a bit.
L67 JAN 19, 07:18 PM
Tripods eat any variance. It's not like space is tight, the stock axles are a great fit.

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L67 JAN 23, 11:50 PM

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Originally posted by mattwa:
I'm worried about the condition of my F23...just being me. It turns and shifts freely in every gear, so I hope it's ok.



You really don't need to be. Your transmission came from a 2200 series engine, which doesn't have the torque to stress the F23 in any substantial form. Aside from synchro's wearing out, the gears should be in great condition on even the highest mileage engine. Not exactly your pop's Isuzu we're talking about.